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Comment · Mon, February 15, 2021 · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot

Best Supplements to improve overall Brain Plasticity and something for the nervous system?

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Bignobber · 66 points

I'm currently looking Curcumin with Piperine (Black pepper), would appreciate any advice on other ones you guys could recommend me, would be of great help!

Edit: link to benefits of Curcumin/Tumeric if anyone is interested:

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/top-10-evidence-based-health-benefits-of-turmeric#TOC_TITLE_HDR_6

Thanks for the help!

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ProperBeat · 0 points

I just don't like it when companies use inaccurate and fraudulent lab data to mislead consumers.

It's your word against some other company 's word. How do we know your claims make sense ? We're not chemists. We have no way to verify such details. Playing the devils advocate: Why would any lab share proprietary information with another lab ?

They seem to have a war with me, though. So does the /r/MushroomSupplements subreddit, based on all the BS being spread around.

What BS is that ? How about 3 examples ? You've said this a few times now so I've looked into that. It's getting annoying. What I found so far was nothing. There's definitely no war against you or ND. You're wrong.

they seem to not want to do any due diligence on the lab that Oriveda is using.

That sub is not about oriveda so it's why should they do that ? They also don't check any other labs. They do have a disclaimer about this Lion's Mane testing in their main (and rather great if I may say so) Lion's Mane thread as a matter of fact. Have you ever read that sub or that thread at all ? Apparently not.

As for the lies about me deleting posts and banning people, that's always been total bullshit. I don't even touch posts or comments dealing with competitors. That's all the other moderators

Like I said, I couldn't find anything about you personally. When moderation was discussed it was always about r/n

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot

It's your word against some other company 's word. How do we know your claims make sense ? We're not chemists. We have no way to verify such details. Playing the devils advocate: Why would any lab share proprietary information with another lab ?

Call up Alkemist or another trusted lab, and ask them why they don't offer erinacine or hericenone testing. Talk to independent people that are chemists and see what they say. I have told you countless times why the numbers are false. If you don't believe me, just go out and ask someone you would believe. Talk to someone that is a chemist that is not associated with me about the methodologies and methods for erinacines and hericenones.

What BS is that ? How about 3 examples ? You've said this a few times now so I've looked into that. It's getting annoying. What I found so far was nothing. There's definitely no war against you or ND. You're wrong.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MushroomSupplements/comments/b6jxk4/why_doesnt_nootropics_depot_and_real_mushrooms/

https://www.reddit.com/r/MushroomSupplements/comments/dk49wf/wtf_mentioned_oriveda_over_nootropics/f4gf0yt/

https://www.reddit.com/r/MushroomSupplements/comments/fwa0v3/question_about_the_stickied_guide_re_labeling/fmo1akd/

There are other posts and comments that have been removed now, too. I've also been sent screenshots of PMs people have gotten from them over the years. Believe it or don't believe it. However, I have tons of people write me all the time saying they originally thought we were shady and silencing people because of stuff they read on that sub.

That sub is not about oriveda so it's why should they do that ? They also don't check any other labs. They do have a disclaimer about this Lion's Mane testing in their main (and rather great if I may say so) Lion's Mane thread as a matter of fact. Have you ever read that sub or that thread at all ? Apparently not.

Because at least trying to validate the scientific data should be the goal of anyone attempting to fill the role of an informed source of information. When numbers are posted that nobody else is claiming, and no well-known and trusted lab will even put their name behind, it should be a big red flag.

Like I said, I couldn't find anything about you personally. When moderation was discussed it was always about r/nootropics moderators aka ND-fanboys. You're wrong about that one.

So you think all the /r/Nootropics mods are ND fanboys, and they moderate in a preferential way towards me? All the moderator actions can be seen in the logs, and we have long conversations surrounding situations all the time. We don't always agree on things, either. However, I always defer to their judgement on things that involve conflicts of interest. It's always their decision. Also, I stand by their decisions, even if I have a slightly different view. They are completely independent of me, and have no financial involvement with ND or any of my companies. It's easy to just make claims that this sub is run by me, but it's just not true. Not that me saying this another time to you will make any bit of difference. You've already made your mind up.

So you're wrong there. That sub is a great and unbiased source of information imo and there's almost no moderation.

Agree to disagree.

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