Comment · Wed, December 16, 2020 · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
Phenylpiracetam - Game Changer For Me (after 6 months of use)
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woodswaugh · 189 points
Phenylpiracetam is one of the most popular and potent nootropics, that has varying levels of benefit for different people.
In my case, it provides therapeutic benefits to and extent for almost all of my cognitive issues, while being sustainable long term (when cycled ofc, I do 3 days a week on). Is stimulating, which is great for lethargy and fatigue, as well as provides focus enhancement (not on the level of amps of course, but significant to say the least) in my experience. I also found that it was EXTREMELY effective in curbing my symptoms of general and social anxiety, as well as the depression that comes with this anxiety. The mood, motivation and energy boost provided by phenyl seems to just allow me to power through my day with confidence, not necessarily alleviating my anxiety, but more giving me the confidence to brush it off/deal with it in a healthy way.
Phenylpiracetam provides many of the benefits associated with amphetamines (although somewhat lessened, seemingly in a good way), while maintaining an unheard of safety profile for such an effective drug. I actually prefer it's effects to amphetamines as it has NEVER lost it's magic for me (as long as I cycle, which i…
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denjulius · 2 points
But Nootropics Depot products are close to pharma-grade, or sometimes even the same or slightly superior quality as some versions in pharmacies
Just curious, do you have any evidence backing up this claim? From what I understood, many vendors (including ND) got their powder from the same labs (a lot of them are in China, and that's why when the US customs started to seize piracetam, people in the US found nowhere to buy). The powders were synthesized as research substance and not for human consumption, as opposed to the pharmaceutical drugs. As a result, even if the test shows the substance has a purity of 98%, you never know what the rest 2% is and whether those impurities are safe for human. Interested to hear u/MisterYouAreSoDumb's opinion.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
Nobody gets their phenylpiracetam from the same lab as us anymore, since we shifted to our own lab in the EU when the China ban happened. It's our lab. The same goes for adrafinil. Even before the ban, we had them specially synthesized for us to our specs. They are made exactly to our specifications, and we test them extensively to ensure they meet them. There can be no harmful unknowns hiding in there, as we test for that using orthogonal methods with HPLC/UPLC, FTIR, NMR, ICP-MS, headspace GC, etc. Back when we were smaller we would just buy from suppliers that we trusted, then test them once we received them. However, not anymore. These days things are synthesized to our specifications, and we only work with suppliers that agree to that ahead of time. We mandate how things should be done, the format documentation should be in, and even share methods with them so they can know exactly how we are analyzing the raw material when it arrives. We are much bigger these days, and have the ability to force labs to do things exactly as we want. It requires us to buy a lot at a time, but it is worth it for the control we get over the process.
If you are interested in seeing how our lab is these days, we recently put up a section on it with a 3D walk through.