Comment · Fri, July 24, 2020 · ND Owner
Tongkat Ali
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Persiandude73 · 25 points
Hi ,
I am about to place an international order and as Misteryouaresodumb spoke highly about ND's Togkat Ali
,I was wondering if the Tongkat Ali will be realsed any time soon?
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csrpj · 2 points
rawforestfoods and lostempireherbs. Sorry, I used acronyms before because I wanted to be neutral and was concerned to inadvertently bias their image one way or another.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
Alkemist says the COA is legit, but it is from 2016 and does show that the % is less than the 1-2% claimed. They rounded up, since Lost Empire did not specify a decimal place. So how it works according to NIST is that if you do not specify a decimal place in your number, you are to round to the nearest significant figure. So since Lost Empire listed their standard as 1-2%, not 1.0-2.0%, technically the NIST rule says to round the number. That's what Alkemist did. They rounded up to 1%, which is why they listed "pass" on the COA. Lost Empire should have never accepted those results, though. It's obvious that people understand 1-2% to mean the result will be within that range. 0.88% is less than 1%. Anyone can admit that. Not having a decimal place specified in their NLT number doesn't change that. We would have never passed a batch like that. Alkemist was not wrong to round up, according to NIST. However, Lost Empire was wrong to accept a batch at 0.88% when it was supposed to be 1-2%. Make sense?
Regardless, that is a 4 year old COA. If that's the last time they tested their tongkat, that's bad. We have some on the way from both vendors now. We'll get some lab data on them soon.