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Comment · Tue, July 21, 2020 · ND Owner

Tongkat Ali

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Persiandude73 · 25 points

Hi ,
I am about to place an international order and as Misteryouaresodumb spoke highly about ND's Togkat Ali
,I was wondering if the Tongkat Ali will be realsed any time soon?

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TheGermanGuy21 · 4 points

We have over 10 new products coming out. I was hoping to have some of them out by now, and have them more come out regularly over a few month period. However, it is looking like we will be releasing them all later than expected, but closer together to each other.

I always wonder impatiently, where are all these new products you said you were going to bring out lol. But jokes aside, I'd rather see well thought through and properly tested compounds than anything rushed. I think it's pretty rare that you and your team trial all these things before you decide to offer them. Most supplement companies probably just throw stuff together that looks good on paper without trying if it's actually an effective and useful product. I'm excited to see what those 10+ things will be. To cite u/DoNotBeSelfish, my wallet is ready xD

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

COVID-19 screwed up a lot of timelines, plus we had a lot of extra analytical work on a lot of them. It's a long process that starts with getting samples from prospective suppliers, getting reference standards, developing and validating our lab testing methods, testing those samples, approving a supplier, getting a production batch made to our specs, then getting that shipped here and through customs, tested and approved in the lab, encapsulated/entabulated, then tested again in our lab to ensure it meets label claims, then into production for bottles, and finally on the site. Many times we approve a supplier based off a sample, then we have to fail the production batch once it gets here. It's the story of our lives these days. You have to be on top of your game. Sometimes it takes us 6 months to get our testing methods working, or to get validated standards. Any delay at each step in the process just makes the release date farther out. We don't cut corners. So if something doesn't pass, we need to investigate why and fix the process. It's a slow and methodical system, but the results speak for themselves.

I trial and take all this stuff myself, and I buy our competitor's shit to try out as well. Our stuff is in such a different league than the other shit out there, it's no contest. I would even go so far as to say, at least for certain things, you don't really know what a specific extract can feel like till you take ours. Our tongkat ali is in a whole different universe than the rest of the garbage out there. I just got all the testing data today for all our competitors... Just pathetic. Now I know why they all felt like garbage when I tried them. They are garbage.

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