Comment · Tue, April 14, 2020
Consumerlabs Ashwagandha Testing Results
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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 44 points
I actually just wrote most of this in a comment on /r/Nootropics, but I figured I would make a post here for everyone. We have been getting a lot of emails about this, so I wanted to address it.
Consumerlabs recently released a report of a bunch of ashwagandha products on the market. They did not test any of our products. However, they did test Life Extension and Jarrow, which use KSM-66 and Sensoril. Those failed for withanolides, which caused some of our customers to be concerned about those extracts. Before I start, I want to stress that both of these extracts have human clinical research behind their effectiveness. They have multiple studies in humans that show improvements. So this is absolutely not a case of fake or low quality product. Anyone that has used these extracts knows they work. They are some of our most popular patented natural extracts. It's not some mass placebo happening here. They actually do work, and there is research showing that. So I want everyone to know that before we get into the science. I won't comment on whether other brands are using different ashwa…
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/u/MisterYouAreSoDumb In regards to your idea for a purity testing non-profit, would you test products based on votes? Or would you choose based on your own criteria? Also, would people be able to send in samples themselves? If so, would these tests be paid for/subsidized through donations?
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And finally, what is currently the biggest roadblock preventing this idea from becoming a reality? If it's an issue of man-power, I have for-profit connections in both the US and Europe that test a wide variety of customer samples that would most likely be interested in working with you on this project.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb
/u/MisterYouAreSoDumb In regards to your idea for a purity testing non-profit, would you test products based on votes? Or would you choose based on your own criteria? Also, would people be able to send in samples themselves? If so, would these tests be paid for/subsidized through donations?
We would control what gets tested, as we would want to factor it into the lab flow to make it make efficient sense. If we are doing a big project on our HP-TLC already, it would not make sense to go out and test a bunch of botanicals that also need the HP-TLC. So fitting it into the flow of the lab is critical to it making economic sense.
And finally, what is currently the biggest roadblock preventing this idea from becoming a reality? If it's an issue of man-power, I have for-profit connections in both the US and Europe that test a wide variety of customer samples that would most likely be interested in working with you on this project.
Time, money, and people. I don't trust other labs I have not personally vetted. So I will not be using random labs for this project. I don't trust their numbers. So right now I am expanding our lab in regards to equipment, people, and processes to handle a project like this. Then I need to actually build the non-profit corporate structure, and ideally get a team in there running it under my direction. Building a team that can last takes time, and I need to make sure it can be self-sustaining before I get too leveraged.
My mission is to revolutionize the entire industry, including the lab industry. People trust labs right now that they really really shouldn't. They trust numbers from these places that are faulty or outright fabricated. Bad science and bad chemistry is the norm, not the exception. The deeper you dig, the more shit you find. It's like building a house on an old trash dump. The foundation is faulty. You need to start from the ground up and build from a strong solid foundation. I am doing that, but it takes a lot of time, effort, and money. However, the end result will be something that is much more solid and stable than what came before it.