Comment · Sat, February 29, 2020
Finally CONFIRMED that dud/fake batches exist
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DieOfBetes · 4 points
For a few months now I've been trying to get my hands on real Moda and also trying to tell people that there are many FAKE batches out there. Not just Moda but also Armodafinil and Adrafinil (from DoubleWood supplements which used to be good, but it was orange, this white stuff is fake).
So I search through all the stripes I bought, and I bought a lot, to stock up, and Modvigil batch 232-115 is FAKE. This has been reported by others which I discovered by googleing.
Modalert batch ESUO418 is also FAKE. I have 4 of those sadly.
Adrafinil from Nootropics Depot is also dud, it does a little something but this is not it. I tried 3x300mg and got the effect I used to get from ONE 300mg pill.
Then I find one stripe of Modalert batch ESTO611, take HALF a tablet and withing 20 minutes I feel more of an effect that I got from 2 or 3 pills of all those Armoda, Modvigil and Adrafinil fakes.
I spent more than 200 dollars on those fakes but the biggest fear was that I have somehow become a non-responder, which is impossible. If there are non-responders they are like that from the beginning.
The Armoda batch that is fake is: EMU1142. A real box, real stripes, packaging but does nothing. Wh…
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afinilbio · 9 points
Nootropics Depot is not likely to be selling duds, they are the best in the business when it comes to nootropics; that's a big red flag with your accusation.
/u/MisterYouAreSoDumb might have an idea as to what's up, he owns ND.
As far as I can tell though, I have heard of this happening with afinils. Entire batches are never a problem, bad batch reports are always met with good batch counter claims. Maybe the problem relates to it's mechanism of action or the way it is metabolized, individual physiological factors might be effecting things.
The chances of Modafinil, Armodafinil and Adrafinil all from different manufacturers being fake or having serious quality issues is so extremely unlikely that I don't know what to tell you.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb
Definitely zero chance. I went into more detail in my other comment.