Comment · Mon, February 18, 2019
Longvida Curcumin and Iron Deficiency
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Gab1159 · 3 points
Hey guys,
Been building up a stack mainly focused on brain health, but I also want it to maintain a healthy balance of vitamins and minerals in the body. I've bought some Curcumin specifically to help with BDNF (which I combine with 8:1 Lion's Mane), but I've been reading a lot about Curcumin potentially causing iron deficiency.
Do I need to worry about this specifically if I intend on taking 1 Longvida Optimized Curcumin (400mg) pill a day around mid-day? I'm also taking 1 Doctor's Best Multivitamin pill a day (as opposed to three as indicated, since I get lots of vitamins from elsewhere anyway), but this formula is marked as Iron Free, so no iron intake there.
I do drink two smoothies every morning with a fair deal of baby spinach in there, hence why I take my Curcumin later in the day (as to let time for the iron from the spinach to be absorbed by my body before Curcumin comes in and alters iron absorption).
So what are your thoughts on this? Is it fine to keep doing as I do and get my iron mainly from spinach and only get my curcumin around mid-day?
Thanks a lot!
EDIT: For the sake of clarity and to not be a pain, I guess my question could be simplified as this: **i…
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Curcumin has been discovered to be an iron chelator.
Iron chelation in the biological activity of curcumin
Since iron chelators repress ferritin translation, we considered that curcumin may act as an iron chelator. To test this hypothesis, we measured the effect of curcumin on transferrin receptor 1, a protein stabilized under conditions of iron limitation, as well as the ability of curcumin to activate iron regulatory proteins (IRPs). Both transferrin receptor 1 and activated IRP, indicators of iron depletion, increased in response to curcumin. Consistent with the hypothesis that curcumin acts as an iron chelator, mice that were fed diets supplemented with curcumin exhibited a decline in levels of ferritin protein in the liver. These results suggest that iron chelation may be an additional mode of action of curcumin.
To test whether the chelator activity of curcumin is sufficient to induce iron deficiency in vivo, mice were placed on diets containing graded concentrations of both iron and curcumin for 26 weeks. Mice receiving the lowest level of dietary iron exhibited borderline iron deficiency, with reductions in spleen and liver iron, but little effect on hemoglobin, hematocrit, transferrin saturation, or plasma iron. Against this backdrop of subclinical iron deficiency, curcumin exerted profound 2 effects on systemic iron, inducing a dose-dependent decline in hematocrit, hemoglobin, serum iron, and transferrin saturation, the appearance of microcytic anisocytotic red blood cells, and decreases in spleen and liver iron content. Curcumin repressed synthesis of hepcidin, a peptide that plays a central role in regulation of systemic iron balance. These results demonstrate that curcumin has the potential to affect systemic iron metabolism, particularly in a setting of subclinical iron deficiency. This may affect the use of curcumin in patients with marginal iron stores or those exhibiting the anemia of cancer and chronic disease.
Treatment of iron-overloaded rats with curcumin resulted in marked decreases in iron accumulation within liver and spleen. Iron-overloaded rats had significant increases in malonyldialdehyde (MDA), a marker of lipid peroxidation and nitric oxide (NO) in liver and spleen when compared to control group. The effects of iron overload on lipid peroxidation and NO levels were significantly reduced by the intervention treatment with curcumin (P<0.05). Furthermore, the endogenous anti-oxidant activities/levels in liver and spleen were also significantly decreased in chronic iron overload and administration of curcumin restored the decrease in the hepatic and splenic antioxidant activities/levels.
Our study suggests that curcumin may represent a new horizon in managing iron overload-induced toxicity as well as in pathological diseases characterized by hepatic iron accumulation such as thalassemia, sickle cell anemia, and myelodysplastic syndromes possibly via iron chelation, reduced oxidative stress derived lipid peroxidation and improving the body endogenous antioxidant defense mechanism.
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So it seem the mechanism is valid and not insignificant. If I were a person that had low dietary iron, or an iron deficiency, I would take that into account before taking curcumin. That being said, you take a lot less Longvida than you do regular curcumin. Furthermore, the curcumin particles are surrounded by a lecithin and stearic acid lipid particle. So we don't know how that would affect how much it chelates iron. We would need some direct studies comparing Longvida and regular curcumin's effects on iron to know for sure. I would say that as long as you have a healthy amount of iron in your diet, I would not be too worried about taking Longvida.