Comment · Wed, November 7, 2018 · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
General Impressions
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Cryptoclearance · 9 points
I would like to get impressions others have gotten from a few products. I don’t want to drive any debates, just to get a sense of how well they do or did for you.
1) MitoQ - I took 3 months of this product. It’s pretty expensive and I felt no difference or impact from taking it.
2) TRU Niagen vs Niagen HPN - I have been taking the TRU since the other suddenly became unavailable. I have been taking Niagen for a year, but have not seen any real improvements in my blood work. Not sure if I will continue.
3) Modafinal with ZHOU caffeine + L-Theanine - I split a modafinal each workday. I don’t feel limitless or extremely focused taking it but it might be more subtle than that.
4) BioAstin Astaxanthin - I take it daily but haven’t seen any noticeable differences.
5) Tumeric Curcumin with Bioperive 1500mg. - take 3 daily. Another I’m not sure if it helps.
So, as you can see, I have sort of a Stack here of things that have been given lots of support for having a healthy lifestyle. But am I wasting my money on this stuff? I eat a balanced diet and get exercise, but I’m getting older (mid forties) and I’m trying to get in front of things for a good quality of life as I age.
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u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
FYI: ZHOU is a marketing company that decided to get into supplements because they saw the potential. That's why their marketing is really good. However, they are first and foremost a marketing company. They don't know shit about supplements or quality control.
MitoQ is just mitoquinol mesylate in a VERY low dosage. That's a derivative of CoQ10, but the science does not look good to me. You would be much better off taking a larger dose of a high-bioavailability CoQ10 for long periods to let it build up in your body. It's also overpriced like crazy.
Niagen has only shown to increase nicotinamide riboside and NAD+ in the liver. It does not seem to translate to systemic circulation, or reach the brain in meaningful amounts. For that reason, nicotinamide riboside is not a very good candidate for oral supplementation. Nicotinamide mononucleatide is better for that, and one that you can actually feel the effects of. It's just expensive and hard to find in quality forms.
Modafinil is not for everyone. Some people just don't react to it, due to polymorphisms of their genes. It's also a wakefulness enhancer, not a cognitive enhancer. So it really is best use for staying awake for long periods, or shift work sleep disorder.
I would be willing to bet the "Tumeric Curcumin with Bioperive 1500mg" you are taking is garbage. Most curcumin is, and they are outright lying to people. Look on the supplement facts box. Does it say something like "1,350 tumeric and 150mg curcumin?" Most companies fill their product with cheap tumeric, which is only 2-3% curcumin, then add a little curcumin in so they can confuse people on the front of the label. They are making you think you are taking 1,500mg of curcumin, when you are not. You want 1,000mg of a 95% curcuminoid extract of curcumin per day, with around 6mg of piperine. That's what the recommended dosage is. You are likely only getting 150mg curcumin. The shitty thing is you are one of millions of people likely being duped by this shitty practice. It's so common in curcumin right now, that I was trying to price competition on it yesterday on Amazon and all I was finding was garbage misleading products. Very few were selling actual 95% curcumin in the appropriate amounts. It's nuts, and nobody is talking about it! They just pay for a bunch of Amazon reviews and are set. Then they can sell garbage to people and make bank.
Regarding the BioAstin Astaxanthin, you are just not really going to "feel" astaxanthin. It's an antioxidant that might help over time, and could help LDL levels and blood flow. However, those are likely not something you would really notice that much.
So yes, I would say you are wasting your money. That does not mean you can't create a regimen that will actually work for you, though. You just have to wade through the bullshit to get there; and trust me, there's a lot of bullshit.