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Comment · Sat, October 10, 2015 · Ceretropic & Nootropics Depot

Are the days of 3rd party COAs over?

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luke1899 · 26 points

The title is the question. When Nootorpic businesses started popping up, the standard was whether you had 3rd party COA's or not . Now, almost no one has one up.

Powder City suddenly stopped putting them up anymore . Why, I dont know, but I would like an answer.

Ceretropic doesn't have them up. Yes, I know they do in house testing but all the COA's they have up are China manufacturer COA's

Peak nootropics has 3rd party COA's up but some of them are from 2013, really? The product from those COAs isnt even good anymore

I only brought a few companines that I've bought from, btu if anyone else has any, chime in

Now don't get me wrong, I order from Powder City and Ceretropic all the time, but why have the 3rd party COAs disappeared? I am not trying to "call anyone out" but I do believe as a customer I have the right to have this answered

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u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic & Nootropics Depot

We don't put any Chinese manufacturer COAs up. Those are worthless. The ones we put up are ours, based on the testing we do internally. We don't use Colmeric much anymore. I sent too many people his way, and he was inundated with requests. So things started slowing down. That is why we bought an HPLC and FTIR, so we could do testing internally, and not have to rely on anyone else. Getting reference standards and creating methods is a bitch, and costs a lot. The USP reference standard for Milk Thistle extract was over $300 alone! I had to spend $3,000 just on solvents for some of the HPLC methods. I've spent over $100,000 so far on this testing lab. It's awesome that we can do it all internally now. It just costs a lot.

We are working on a central database of testing results that people can access on the site. We just keep getting inundated with other things that takes our time away, like this stupid card processing shutdown.

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