Comment · Sat, September 19, 2015
Questions on MisterYouAreSoDumb's ECA stack modifications
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DipshitCokeheadSon · 6 points
Hey guys, I'm relatively new to stacking and nootropics in general, so go easy please.
Anyways, I'm in Canada and recently discovered you can buy pure ephedrine OTC, so I've decided to try out the ECA stack as a cheap and easy study buddy. I came across the modifications suggested by /u/MisterYouAreSoDumb in my research, and was looking for some suggestions on how to proceed.
The stack recommended consists of:
* Ephedrine HCL
* Caffeine
* Taurine
* L-Arginine/Citrulline
* ALCAR
* Na-R-ALA
* EGCG
* PQQ
* CoQ10
I'm trying to do this without buying any additional supplements, but I will if I have to. Anyways, on to the questions:
* I'm missing taurine and PQQ. Are there any health implications of simply leaving these out of the stack, and are there any reasonable substitutions I may have in my arsenal?
* For the EGCG, I'm not a fan of green tea and don't have any white tea, so can I get enough from a cup or two of black tea?
* I only have regular ALA rather than Na-R-ALA. Will the S-ALA in there produce any negative effects?
* For the L-Arginine/Citrulline suggestion, I'm assuming that means one or the other rather than both, right? I have L-Arginine…
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Direct reply to the original post — see the thread post above.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb
I would definitely add in the Taurine. It protects the cardiac muscles from strain. You can leave out the PQQ if you don't have it. That is only a recent addition to the stack for me. I actually take both L-Arginine and L-Citruline. However, you can just choose one if you want. Racemic ALA is fine too. Usually you take 200mg of that instead of 100mg Na-R-ALA.
The 24mg Ephedrine and 200mg Caffeine is good. L-Arginine is usually 1g. Taurine is 500mg. ALCAR is 500mg. Na-R-ALA is usually 100mg. EGCG is 400mg of 50% extract. PQQ is 10mg. CoQ10 is 100mg.