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Comment · Fri, September 11, 2015 · Ceretropic & Nootropics Depot

Smart Drug Smarts presents... Axon Labs!

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axonlabs · 9 points

Hello from the team behind the Smart Drug Smarts podcast!

We're jumping up and down over here...

Today we release our latest labor of love into the wild — a brand-new nootropics company called Axon Labs!

(You can visit our shop at http://axonlabs.io/)

We've opened our doors with two initial products, NEXUS and MITOGEN:

NEXUS (http://axonlabs.io/products/nexus) is a cognitive stack built around Aniracetam.
 
It’s combined with CDP Choline, Phosphatidylserine, and Pycnogenol® to optimize its effects across an acute, cognition-sharpening experience.
 
You’re looking at 4-5 hours of clear, quick and creative thinking.

MITOGEN (http://axonlabs.io/products/mitogen) is a mitochondrial amplification stack that boosts your energy levels while also promoting mitochondrial biogenesis. Its six carefully-selected ingredients give body-wide effects — but some also play double-duty inside the brain, being strong cognitive enhancers, like Sulbutiamine.

It's really been an exciting few months for us — and I could go on AT LENGTH, but Jesse has already done that for us on the Smart Drug Smarts website...

So, for background on how our newest venture came to be, click here: http://smartdru…

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ilatimer1 · 1 points

So apparently there is a difference between R-Lipoic (which Mitogen contains) Acid and R-ALA (which Mitogen does not contain). Alpha-lipoic acid consists of a 50/50 mixture of the R- (natural) and S- (unnatural) forms (enantiomers). It is the most widely available commercial form of lipoic acid. R-Lipoic Acid is the form of lipoic acid that occurs naturally in plants, animals and the body and is responsible for the specific beneficial effects of alpha lipoic acid. This product (Mitogen) contains R-Lipoic Acid and not R-ALA.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic & Nootropics Depot

That is not correct. Lipoic acid and α-Lipoic acid are the same thing. You can say the alpha or leave it out. R-ALA is the same thing as R-Lipoic Acid. That is the dextrorotory enantiomer of ALA. They are just different ways to say it. You can also call it thioctic acid. Racemic ALA is R,S-α-lipoic acid, or R,S-ALA, or R,S-Lipoic Acid, or R,S-thioctic acid.

The issue with regular R-ALA is that it not very orally bioavailable. It actually reaches lower peak plasma levels than racemic ALA. That is what the sodium salt was made for: to deliver the active form of Lipoic Acid to the body, but make it much more orally bioavailable. Mitogen contains the least bioavailable form od Lipoic Acid.

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