Comment · Mon, May 18, 2015 · Ceretropic
where can i get my supplement tested ?
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creepingdeathv2 · 7 points
is there a lab that i can send a sample to and get them to tell me what the powder in the capsule is ?
i don't feel that this batch that i m taking is having any effect at all and wondering if i m taking something else and potentially harmful instead ? and if the thing i am taking is what the label claims to be then i gotta get on a different stack because i have developed resistance towards it... i just want to figure this out and then decide what i need to do.
i don't mind paying for the tests and bearing the cost of logistics etc.
PM me if you want to be discreet about it.
Hoping someone come thru... thanks
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new_star_nootropics · 6 points
Here is a bunch of options for you!
We can run a real crude melting point test for you using our Mel-Temp. If it melts at the expected temperature, it is probably Phenylpiracetam. If it melts slightly above or below then we would expect some contamination. If it melts way outside the expected range, it is probably something else. However, does your capsule contain fillers? That makes a melting point analysis much more difficult. We offer this service for a minimal fee to cover our costs.
We can have a HNMR and HPLC run for you at the lab we work with, and then can provide our professional assessment of the raw data. We can tell you if the sample is Phenylpiracetam, approximately how pure it appears to be, and also if we see any significant contamination issues. The total cost would be around $180 and we would only need around 100mg. Turn around time is 2-5 days. PM me or shoot us an email at [email protected] if you are interested.
Or you could contact Colmaric Analytical's and order an assay. We have only used them once for our latest batch of Nefiracetam, but they are commonly used by several other vendors because they are about the cheapest place in the country to get an assay done. The advantage is that you won't have to interpret raw data - they will report your sample as a percentage of the purity of the reference sample that they use. Given…
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic
We'll have an HPLC in about a week or so. ND has an FTIR that we use all the time. We'll be getting another FTIR and an NMR too. That's later this year, or next, though. NMRs are crazy expensive! Colin is super backed up. I would not send anyone else his way. People are telling me they are just not responding to requests anymore, due to the volume. But Colin always uses Sigma Aldrich reference material for assays.
FTIR is perfect for identification, since you can actually see functional groups. Also, if you have a good reference library, you can get a lot of good info. The Thermo Scientific one at ND even uses algorithms to analyze the spectrum compared to known samples, and extrapolate data from it. Plus it is super fast. We are going to be getting a Thermo Scientific IS50 FTIR, with a GC attachment. So we can separate components with the GC, then FTIR each individually. Plus the IS50 does near, mid, and far spectrum, plus Raman and ATR. Pair that with the HPLC shipping to us in a few days, and the NMR we will get eventually, and you will be able to test almost everything. The one thing with NMR is that it will only be able to detect differences in proton or carbon counts. Sometimes a change is made to a molecule that does not alter the carbons or proton, but does affect functional groups or the type of salt it is. Then that change would show up on an FTIR, but not NMR. I think a lot of people underestimate the data one can get from an FTIR spectrum. If you LC or GC the sample before FTIR, then you really can get some good info.