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Comment · Fri, March 6, 2015 · Ceretropic

Who will continue to buy from TLR

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Dakman1 · 13 points

In light of TLR refusing and evading and ignoring repeated questioning on the accusations of some of his products being tested as being entirely not what they are sold as, who will continue to financially support such a company.

It's fact that they sell products that have tested to be genuine, this isn't about targeting or damaging someone's reputation with false or questionable accusations.

But when a company representitive will not respond to allegations and has not even denied the claims in a manner that normal people can comprehend I can't see why anyone would continue to purchase from and support such a character and company that has shown no respect to the community that they supply to.

So the question is will you and why will you continue to support this company ?

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cat__face · 0 points

Has anyone who doesn't have a horse in the race (i.e. not another vendor) verified the product testing results?

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic

Would anyone else like to step up and help me with the testing program, so I can stop being accused of doing things because I "have a horse in the race?"

I have always stated that I love competition, when the people competing are doing it honestly and safely for the consumers. TLR has been sketchy since day one. Have you read through the Longecity thread since yesterday? Now they are saying I was abused as a child, and have mental problems. One of their "customers" started accosting me about Jason's death. It does not upset me like they think it does. I've made my peace with what happened to Jason. But he was a longtime member of the Longecity community. Dragging his name through the mud for no reason is just out of line. Not that I expected any different. I knew it would devolve into an attack on me, as it always does. I just didn't think anyone would stoop low enough to bring the death of other people into the discussion on why certain products tested the way they did. Anyone supporting them is supporting that kind of hateful drivel. I may be sarcastic, and push things that I feel strongly about. But I am a good person, and would never let my arguments devolve into a shouting match about dead members of the community. And they STILL have not addressed anything to do with the results.

It's cute they think I consider them actual competition. I don't give two shits about them from a business perspective. However, I do care when I constantly get people messaging and emailing me about their shit not working. I do care about the safety and efficacy of things being sold to people in the Nootropics community. I hate the amount of time I have to take out of my day to organize the testing, though. And I hate how stressed it makes me when the inevitable happens, and I start getting personally attacked again. Do you think I want to constantly waste my time arguing irrelevant things, when all a company would need to do would be offer a valid explanation of the findings? Do you think I constantly want to associate the Ceretropic name with this kind of negativity? Fuck no! I would love to just stay out of it, and concentrate on all the other stuff I have to do. I do it in spite of all that shit, because it needs to be done. Someone needs to be calling out companies that operate in shady manners. Eventually I will create a nonprofit company to do that, and pass the reigns on to someone else to worry about and control it.

Seriously. I absolutely dread releasing testing results now. I sat with one of my employees for 15 min talking about waiting to release the results the night of the post, and how it was just going to be a shitshow. I had everything all written up, but did not post it for a long while. I had so much other shit to do, but I was sitting there debating making a fucking Reddit post. I fucking hate it.

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