r/Nootropics Purity Testing

Post · Tue, April 16, 2013 · 142 pts

Myself and the other moderators have come up with a plan for 3rd party testing of various vendor's nootropics. Some of the vendors approached us looking for a way to advertise here, but have the money benefit the communi

Comment · Tue, April 16, 2013 · 4 pts

Testing is between $150-$200 per compound. That is just for purity testing. If we want to do heavy metals or trace elements testing, then that would be more. Also, any substance that does not have reference standards ca

Comment · Tue, April 16, 2013 · 3 pts

Unfortunately there are no reference standards for noopept at this time. That is one we will have to wait on.

Comment · Tue, April 16, 2013 · 7 pts

>Are bacterial/fungus tests expensive? They would be a couple hundred more. >Ultimately, would be good to see this testing a more concrete part of this subreddit, with donate links in the sidebar, for instance. That i

Comment · Tue, April 16, 2013 · 2 pts

We'll make a post each time results come out. There are a few Redditors that are going to be putting those results into tracking sheets as well. Anyone that wants to reference the data may do so.

Comment · Tue, April 16, 2013 · 2 pts

Yes, we will definitely need samples going forward. Once we decide on the ones that will be tested, we will look for Redditors with samples from those batches. Each test needs ~5 grams.

Comment · Tue, April 16, 2013 · 2 pts

Sure, that would be an option as well. We could combine purchasing power to get deals. My time is somewhat limited due to my business, but I would welcome any volunteers that are willing to organize things. EDIT: Keep i

Comment · Tue, April 16, 2013 · 17 pts

Thanks for the compliment!

Comment · Tue, April 16, 2013 · 3 pts

Will do. Do you have CH choline bitartrate? The one that was numbing the mouth.

Comment · Tue, April 16, 2013 · 3 pts

Definitely. We need to have an accurate sample of what the public is getting.

Comment · Tue, April 16, 2013 · 3 pts

That can be an option down the line. I know that has always been a fear with bacopa.

Comment · Tue, April 16, 2013 · 5 pts

Haha, there's no risk. You have the purchase trail, and it's not an illegal substance. It should be fine. When I shipped the samples to the lab, I put them in small individual baggies with labels on them. Then I sealed t

Comment · Tue, April 16, 2013 · 3 pts

HPLC. The Company is Colmeric Analyticals. http://www.colmaricanalyticals.com/ I spoke to a few other labs, like Analytical Laboratories in Anaheim and Advanced Laboratories in Salt Lake, but they were more expensive

Comment · Tue, April 16, 2013 · 3 pts

Well that won't be accurate purity, since there is no reference. It would tell us how much each differ from each other. However, that is not very useful when there is no reference point.

Comment · Wed, April 17, 2013 · 3 pts

Not for the money. We will need to wait for Sigma Aldrich or another reference company to stock it.

Comment · Wed, April 17, 2013 · 4 pts

Keep in mind NSN tests most of their stuff with a 3rd party lab already. The lab is Analytical Laboratories In Anaheim CA. http://analytical-lab.com/ I've spoken to one of their employees about testing. They are a lit

Comment · Wed, April 17, 2013 · 1 pts

Yes, we will accept donations from individuals as well. Another Redditor already sent some money earlier today, actually. I'll update the post with the Paypal account, but here it is: Paypal account name: Reddit Moderat

Comment · Wed, April 17, 2013 · 2 pts

I'm just coordinating it, so I am not sure of the specifics. However, I know they are using HPLC for sure. The testing is being done by Colmeric Analyticals in Nashville TN. http://www.colmaricanalyticals.com

Comment · Wed, April 17, 2013 · 3 pts

I have a Paypal account setup that people are donating to. I wish there was a better service to use that did not take so much commission! Dwolla is only $.25 per transaction, but everyone needs to have an account to dona

Comment · Wed, April 17, 2013 · 1 pts

What concoction do you mean?

Comment · Wed, April 17, 2013 · 4 pts

I'll talk to Colin at the lab to see what he is doing. He seemed pretty on the ball.

Comment · Wed, April 17, 2013 · 3 pts

The lab is getting back to me on a method to test modafinil, but it's definitely on the radar.

Comment · Wed, April 17, 2013 · 4 pts

I assume Sigma Aldrich goes through a barrage of tests to ensure 100% purity on their reference samples. See this post below from another user about purity testing. http://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/1ch9o4/rno

Comment · Wed, April 17, 2013 · 3 pts

I found [this paper](http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11094-008-0037-6) dealing with developing the state reference sample for noopept. That was published in 2007, so there must be some way to get testing!

Comment · Wed, April 17, 2013 · 1 pts

EDIT: Nevermind, Zombie does not have that account anymore.

Comment · Wed, April 17, 2013 · 1 pts

EDIT: Nevermind, Zombie does not have that account anymore.

Comment · Wed, April 17, 2013 · 1 pts

I've considered trying their centro out, but have not done it yet.

Comment · Thu, April 18, 2013 · 2 pts

We are definitely going to be testing many vendors. The response to this has been amazing so far. The donation account is up to $1,000, and Sophie from Modup has pledged another $1,000!

Comment · Thu, June 20, 2013 · 2 pts

We tested three racetams Health Supplement Wholesalers, and they all came back pure. I am sending in the numbing choline from Cerebral Health, piracetam from Cognitive Nutrition, and the piracetam tablets from piracet.am