Comment · Thu, April 4, 2013 · Ceretropic
Reddit Placebo Blinded Racetam Study
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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 121 points
Well the time has finally come. My curiosity has finally expanded to real world effectiveness, not just pharmacological mechanisms. We are all aware of the countless anecdotes for the various nootropics out there. Many of us have based our decisions on the validity and accuracy of those anecdotes. But how do we know that the effects stated in those anecdotes are due to the racetams and not the placebo effect? How do we even know if the supposed results we are seeing in our own supplement regimen are not due to confirmation bias? We've read the anecdotes. We've read the studies. We know what the effects are supposed to be. Perhaps we are allowing the placebo effect to cloud our judgement, and blur the lines of results and expectations. Can some of us determine which racetam we were given just by the effects? Well now is the time to answer that.
This is going to be the first study in a series. Depending on how well this one goes, perhaps we will expand in the future. LiftMode has expressed interest in a study of the newest nootropics like sunfiram and colouracetam. That will most likely be our second study. This first one is being sponsored by Health Supplement Wholesalers, and wil…
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i11uminati · 2 points
Yes, definitely. We're getting new racetam batches in soon. Once they arrive, we'll move forward with Colmaric testing. Will we send the samples to you or directly to the lab? I know you want to keep the racetam testing as unbiased as possible. Aside from the racetams, we'll likely use this lab for other products as well, since other labs seem to be taking forever with communication.
EDIT: Didn't see the L-Theanine question at first. I'm really not sure without seeing the specific rotation. The batch of L-Theanine in question was from Creative Compounds, who uses Colmaric Analyticals, but we were only supplied with a summary of the assay test from Creative Compounds. Supposedly DL-theanine or racemic theanine is no longer on the market, and is just a "fact" spread by Suntheanine. We'll get our current batch of L-Theanine tested and make sure the lab supplies detailed results which show specific rotation along with the HPLC chromatogram.
I know it's taking a long time to get products tested, but hopefully now with Colmaric, we'll start getting third-party testing results faster.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic
I think the plan was for me to send the samples in. I have putting the study on hold until we can quality test. If we are going to be testing a new batch of racetams, then I think the study should use those. That way we are sure of the purity.