Comment · Thu, April 4, 2013 · Ceretropic
Reddit Placebo Blinded Racetam Study
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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 121 points
Well the time has finally come. My curiosity has finally expanded to real world effectiveness, not just pharmacological mechanisms. We are all aware of the countless anecdotes for the various nootropics out there. Many of us have based our decisions on the validity and accuracy of those anecdotes. But how do we know that the effects stated in those anecdotes are due to the racetams and not the placebo effect? How do we even know if the supposed results we are seeing in our own supplement regimen are not due to confirmation bias? We've read the anecdotes. We've read the studies. We know what the effects are supposed to be. Perhaps we are allowing the placebo effect to cloud our judgement, and blur the lines of results and expectations. Can some of us determine which racetam we were given just by the effects? Well now is the time to answer that.
This is going to be the first study in a series. Depending on how well this one goes, perhaps we will expand in the future. LiftMode has expressed interest in a study of the newest nootropics like sunfiram and colouracetam. That will most likely be our second study. This first one is being sponsored by Health Supplement Wholesalers, and wil…
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i11uminati · 2 points
I finally have results from the blinded L-Theanine test. It took longer than I though, mostly due to my high tolerance, so I had to do 2 sets of tests. I started with 400mg samples, but didn't notice much of an effect with either.
Then I tried several 1g samples of each, and I noticed that one color packet consistently gave me a slightly more "mellow" feeling than the other, so I assumed this one was the Purebulk theanine. This was confirmed by the employee that packaged the samples.
So overall, even with a blinded test, Purebulk's theanine gave a slightly more mellow effect.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic
So given this info, do you think that Purebulk has a higher ratio of L enantiomer to R enantiomer?
I got some better pricing for racetam testing from Colmaric Analyticals. The owner Colin seems like an easy guy to work with. He said most test would range from $150-$200. Do you think you would want to move forward with testing? You could even send Colin the payment directly so we wouldn't have to worry about multiple transfers.