Comment · Thu, November 22, 2012
MDMA Neurotoxicity Part 1 (Metabolites)
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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 77 points
This is probably going to be the first in a series of discussions I start about MDMA. There's just too much information for one post. Therefore, I am going to start with one that is very interesting to me: MDMA's metabolites and their role in neurotoxicity. I pre-appologise for the length and terminology used.
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First off, let's discuss how MDMA is metabolized. The human cytochrome CYP450 is responsible for the metabolism of MDMA. The primary enzyme responsible is CYP2D6, using O-demethylation. This process adds two hydrogen atoms to the two open oxygen atoms in MDMA to create HHMA. Let's look at the structure for a minute.
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MDMA is 3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methylamphetamine
HHMA is 3,4-dihydroxy-N-methylamphetamine
So your CYP2D6 enzyme added two hydrogen atoms to the methylenedioxy structure to create a dihydroxy structure. Once it's been o-demethylated to HHMA, it is no longer active like MDMA is. HHMA can then be 0-methylated further to HMMA, or 4-hydroxy-3-methoxy-N-methylamphetamine. Here is an image to help you visualize this process.
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Mentran · 2 points
Would using it once in a moderate dose have noticable effects? I hope you post your part about suplements soon because I will be rolling on new years eve.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb
Noticeable in the long run? Probably not. In the short run you will notice it though. You will have a comedown or the Tuesday blues. If you already have a good diet, it wont be bad though.
I made a ton of comments in the post below. Look through them and you will see what I supplement. Just add grapefruit juice before and during as well.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/12v5f8/research_suggests_no_neurotoxicity_in_mdma/