Comment · Sun, September 30, 2012 · Ceretropic
My 2nd Nootropics Cycle - ( and back story of first cycle inc. doses )
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Yesterday I started my second nootropics cycle after being on everyday for 2-3 months. I had a TON of energy, went to the gym on average for FIVE hours a day - EVERY day ( the gym instructors were a bit confused on how a person can do this ), was learning, reading, and for the first time in my life being genuinely happy ( my mom thought I needed mental help ).
My first Cycle was taking:
Piracetam ( high doses around 3-5g daily )
Choline Bitartrate ( half doses of the Piracetam )
Noopept ( 30 to 100mg daily )
Vinpocine ( 10 - 30 mg daily )
Centrophenoxine ( 250mg )
Protien Workout Powder Mix ( Isopure vanilla - tastes AMAZING, zero carbs )
GNC Powdered Multivitamin
Creatine ( look this one up , was taking 2-3g)
I was also on and exploring RX for my ADD:
Stratera (various doses )
Concerta (Various doses )
Vyvanze (first 50mg then 60mg)
As I am overly cautious ( total paranoia is just total awareness in my book ), I took blood tests regularly. My doctor kept seeing negative liver tests with each sample which were getting worse. Nothing too serious, akin to a night of binge drinking ( which I stopped - felt no need for the first time in my life ) and was a cause for concern. My do…
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therein · 2 points
I am sorry, you totally sound enlightened. If this is how an enlightened person is, I think the world is better off unenlightened.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic
When I started reading this thread I knew that what he was postulating was possible, since I have been there before. However, the manner is which he was trying to get his point across was suspect. I decided to conduct a simple experiment to see if he was in fact achieving said possible results, or if he was manic.
Step one: Show understanding of his perspective while hinting that I was there, or had been there before. Then, show concern for him by offering a slight suggestion, whilst stepping just shy of full on criticism. Then wait for a reply.
Here is my post:
I am truly happy if you are making great progress. However, you must understand that explaining yourself in a less manic manner may actually serve your purpose more, and help you to realize even higher goals. I know you are excited, and that your synapses are firing a million times a second. However, sustainability is key. Take a step back and evaluate from an objective perspective for a while. It will help tremendously.
After this first step, his reply would give me a slight indication of his state of mind. I knew that he would initially thank me for my concern, while simultaneously rejecting my suggestion. He would also offer a vapid display of kindness, which could be construed as actual empathy, given lack of perspective. If he were to come back and thank me for the concern and admit that he was possibly overlooking something, then I would know that he is not manic. This did not happen.
Step two: Slightly alter the wording of my response to be a little more direct. Word it as if I thought I was on his level. Continue by trying to get him to infer that his current outlook would lead him to losing his advantage, or not being the best he could. This time would for sure bring out a manic response if one was to be found. I have slowly shown concern for him, while at the same time making him infer that I thought I was on the same level as him. Then I close by maintaining my critical suggestion in a caring tone. A manic will see this as condescending, which he will be unable to overlook.
Here is my reply:
I completely understand where you are coming from. However, I am not speaking about mediocre people. The moment you start to lose the ability to see what you can learn from even the most mundane interactions, is the moment you start to lose your edge. You don't necessarily need to slow down, you just need to alter your perspective temporarily. If your interaction can help them to improve the way they use their brain, then the world as a whole is better off; including yourself.
Here are the results:
His reply:
>Bitch please. I buy more food for homeless people than anyone you know. I talk to EVERYONE and I LISTEN.
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>Now fuck off with your unsolicited condescending "advice". Call me when you break 150 IQ.
Now I know my experiment has worked, so I clue him in by saying:
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>Haha, there you go. Now I've brought out the manic in you. You are so predictable it's sad. Best of luck!
A manic will not be able to overlook this, especially the last sentence. A reply will come for sure!
His last reply:
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>Manic in me? Your a pathetic piece of useless cum that your mom should have swallowed and did the world a service.
To this I do not reply. Any further replies would lead to nowhere for either myself, or for him. I really like meeting and speaking with people that have found what he was claiming to have found. So I thought I would at least give him a chance to step up to the plate. The mind is a powerful tool, and it can take you places that you never thought possible. It can also turn on you very quickly if you don't know how to control it. I truly hope that he gets some help, or figures it out on his own. For his sake, yes; but more so for society's sake.