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Comment · Sat, April 5, 2025 · ND Owner

Epicatechin Deep Dive

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MisterPaulAna · 7 points

Vigorous Steve did an experiment with Epicatechin, and in the video he mentioned that ND uses shady marketing strategies, he was referring to the ecdy/turk situation. I thought this was dumb of him to say.

And his post bloodwork showing a very significant increase in his c-reactive protein.

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MisterPaulAna · 6 points

Wow. Coward move to delete a respectful and informative comment. It’s obvious that he’s shilling now.

It just makes it worse because in the whole video he was attempting to link his negative bloodwork results to ND’s products off the jump. If he trialed it again and his crp went right back up then it would make more sense, but he was already jumping the gun on dogging ND.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

The mechanisms don't even make sense, and nobody I know in the real world has had elevated CRP while taking it. I also take it every day and my levels are fine. It makes me question the results in the first place. Also, the research shows the opposite.

Epicatechin attenuates atherosclerosis and exerts anti-inflammatory effects on diet-induced human-CRP and NFκB in vivo

CRP was lowered in human placebo controlled trials as well.

Supplementation of the Pure Flavonoids Epicatechin and Quercetin Affects Some Biomarkers of Endothelial Dysfunction and Inflammation in \(Pre\)Hypertensive Adults: A Randomized Double-Blind, Placebo-Controlled, Crossover Trial

Why can't people just not sell fake products? Is that so much to ask? Why do I have to be attacked for trying to advocate for consumers?

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