⚠️ NEW PRODUCT ALERT | Ecklonia cava Capsules⚠️

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 15 pts

We based the dose of EFSA guidelines. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7010033/ It's not an extract because we were able to get high levels of dieckol natively by harvesting it from specific parts of Jeju islan

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 14 pts

Negative. It is not real Ecklonia cava on there. It failed all our HPTLC analysis, and we even sent to Korea for DNA testing. The fact that they have eckloniacava.com is a shame. I registered realeckloniacava.com, though

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 7 pts

LOL

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 12 pts

I most often take it in the afternoon or early evening.

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 3 pts

I talked about it in this comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/NootropicsDepot/comments/1jqny81/new_product_alert_ecklonia_cava_capsules/mlayvkq/

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 9 pts

That's tough, because this one has so many mechanisms. Hair growth is the most noticeable effect, specifically facial hair. However, there are a lot of benefits, so it is hard to pick one.

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 9 pts

I did not notice any changes in that department while taking it, and I trialed significantly higher doses during my beta testing.

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 9 pts

I talked about the extract thing here: https://www.reddit.com/r/NootropicsDepot/comments/1jqny81/new_product_alert_ecklonia_cava_capsules/mlb0vmg/

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 9 pts

It should not cause serotonin syndrome. That's really hard to actually cause. It does increase serotonin, though. It does it through MAO-A and through an interesting effect of increasing Lactobacillaceae probiotics in th

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 5 pts

I believe laser hair removal destroys the follicle, so it should not come back.

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 7 pts

LOL, probably not going to help there. I am noticing more gray hairs coming through the past year. Ecklonia cava didn't change that.

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 22 pts

We may or may not be putting it into an upcoming thermogenic stack... which may or may not be paired with a myostatin inhibiting recomp stack!

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 11 pts

Yeah, not sure what the exact mechanism is, but I noticed it a lot when I was trialing. It's more annoying for me, because that just means I need to shave more. It was not something I was personally looking to increase.

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 6 pts

The name of the product submitted to the EFSA was "Ecklonia cava phlorotannins." So when they approved it, they specifically referenced the full name in the submission. They were not referencing the amount of actual phlo

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 6 pts

I would imagine so, but I am not a woman!

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 7 pts

A similar seaweed with dieckol was tested in humans, and it raised testosterone. https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=72566 It was combined with Tribulus, though. So it was not in isolation. This stu

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 11 pts

It's also possible that it was potentiating my Tongkat I was taking. I take Tongkat every day, so that's always a factor in my testing. But it was for sure correlated with my trials of Ecklonia cava, because it would hap

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 7 pts

Ecklonia cava from Jeju island in Korea has been shown to contain higher levels of fucoidan (11.2%). That's where ours is from. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5205593/ However, we have not directly tested it

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 10 pts

LOL, the owner of that company made an Instagram account to comment on our post! https://www.instagram.com/p/DH_g4_UJsfu/

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 5 pts

Sounds good! See if you can do blood testing before you start, then do another test 4-5 weeks in.

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 9 pts

[You, every time we release a new product.](https://i.giphy.com/ToMjGpKniGqRNLGBrhu.webp)

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 12 pts

Yep, and we are going to be releasing some probiotics soon! I just didn't want to get into probiotics till I was sure we could do it right.

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 5 pts

I know. It's my own personal hell. We look like idiots! It's not for lack of SOPs and process checks, either. I think some people just think SOPs are paperwork for paperwork's sake, not put in place for a real reason...

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 9 pts

They are referring to seapolynol, which we got a sample of and tested in our lab. They don't sell it outside Korea anymore, but we set up a facility in Korea to do all this stuff. It had around 4% dieckol, where ours is

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 6 pts

[Yup!](https://c.tenor.com/FeyeDa60TyIAAAAC/tenor.gif)

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 3 pts

I like our Sibelius Sage! You should get everyone there to start taking our sage. I don't handle our accounting. My finance director does. I can definitely let him know about Sage, but I don't think he is looking to mak

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 5 pts

Yes, I take all those regularly myself, and the Ecklonia cava went well with them.

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 7 pts

Sure, but that's no excuse! That's like a builder of a skyscraper using fake steel, and then having his building fall down. "But I was duped by my steel supplier!" Uhh, yeah... so what? It's your responsibility to ensure

Comment · Fri, April 4, 2025 · 8 pts

Just don't sell fake products. It's as simple as that!

Comment · Sat, April 5, 2025 · 8 pts

That's correct. If I take other things that lower estrogen, I get ligament and joint pain. I don't with Tongkat on its own, but it makes me more likely when combined with other things that affect E2. The new stack tries

Comment · Sat, April 5, 2025 · 4 pts

That looks like it might contain some idodine, but much lower amounts. It's probably less than 5mcg per dose.

Comment · Sat, April 5, 2025 · 7 pts

Ecklonia cava targets fat in a couple ways. One is by activating AMPK. [Brown Alga Ecklonia cava Polyphenol Extract Ameliorates Hepatic Lipogenesis, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammation by Activation of AMPK and SIRT1 in

Comment · Sat, April 5, 2025 · 4 pts

The issue is that it is not standardized to it, so it will range batch-to-batch. When you list something on the label, you have to hold it to those levels fairly closely. I think testing it to know a baseline level is a

Comment · Sat, April 5, 2025 · 5 pts

Absolutely! I take pregnenolone and DHEA daily with my Tongkat and Cistanche. It's why we put it in Cistamax. We are thinking of removing DHEA, though. Multiple countries have an issue with it, so it might be best to kee

Comment · Fri, April 25, 2025 · 3 pts

The Swanson Xanthigen is not claiming to be Ecklonia cava. They say it is a mix of Undaria pinnatifida, fucoxanthin extract, and pomegranate seed oil. From what I know about them, and how hard it is to get real fucoxanth

Comment · Fri, April 25, 2025 · 6 pts

We just built a fucoxanthin assay method on UPLC. I can get some and test it. The only real fucoxanthin we have found is around $1,300 per kg for a 1%. It's an EXTREMELY expensive ingredient, and Swanson is not one to us

Comment · Fri, April 25, 2025 · 3 pts

Horny Goat Weed, Panax ginseng leaf, beta ecdysterone, boron

Comment · Fri, April 25, 2025 · 7 pts

Live strains that are heat-tolerant and heat-killed strains both.

Comment · Fri, April 25, 2025 · 6 pts

Ohh, trust me, we have been working on trying to source fucoxanthin for years. The issue is that it is really hard to find real fucoxanthin at high enough doses to affect the body, and the pricing of the ones that can pu