Comment · Wed, April 3, 2024 · ND Owner
Korean Ginseng Corp VS ND Panax Ginseng
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Tillerfen · 7 points
The KGC has been around for 125 years researching and optimizing panax ginseng per their website. I haven’t tried their products but it looks to be of extremely high quality.
On the other hand ND ginseng has been extremely underwhelming for me. I trust I am getting what I pay for with ND, always, but I fear what I pay for may itself not be of the best value if it’s something not in ND’s expertise, like ginseng, which has been used in traditional Asian culture for thousands of years and over time has developed much like a master craft does.
KGC has special harvest and processing techniques which are probably hard to know the specifics about unless you’re an industry insider. I think ND doesn’t do any of this for their ginseng which is why it has been underwhelming, as you are just getting the bare bones ginsenosides as promised. I don’t know where the line lies between science and bullshit, but I feel like there is something ND doesn’t know about with processing ginseng.
Has anyone tried KGC ginseng and can compare and contrast with ND?
What they were answering
uuwen91 · 1 points
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb I read some informative articles on Tongkat the other day and thought ND could use the same writing style for your products. In the article the vendor claims that they have the best Tongkat though still not as potent as your 2% but they did a really good job in explaining things.
Yellow, Black or Red Tongkat Ali: Which is the best for you? - Akarali
Another article of theirs explaining why their product is superior.
Solaray Tongkat Ali Review: Does it work? And should I buy one? - Akarali
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
They are selling LJ100. They are calling it Physta, as that is the overseas name for the extract, but it is the same thing as LJ100. They are actually not allowed to sell it branded as Physta in the US. We just had a meeting with HP Ingredients at our offices a week or so ago. Annie Eng came to check out our lab and facility, and see if we would be interested in selling LJ100. We are also working with them on some of the science. HP Ingredients is the distributor of LJ100 in North America, and they were the ones to popularize Tongkat 20 years ago. We might carry some of HP's other new products that they have been working on as well.
The big issue with Akarali is they are lying in all their data. They keep saying their product has 1.5% eurycomanone, but the spec for Physta/LJ100 is not less than 0.8% eurycomanone. The range for it is 0.8% to 1.5%. However, most batches are less than 1%. You can't just lie and compare the top end of your spec to the bottom end of our spec. Also, they purposely leave out our 10% eurcomanone product. They only put our 2% on their graphs. Akarali is good about lying and making marketing to trick people into buying their product, which is not even allowed to be sold here in the US, per what HP Ingredients tell me. I do agree that their marketing is good at simplifying it for consumers, though. That just doesn't help anyone when you lie. Our site redesign is going to result in a much better experience for everyone, because I agree that many people do it a lot better than we do at the moment.