Comment · Sat, February 10, 2024 · ND Owner
My experience with Tongkat Ali 2% and 10%.
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Arbak_m · 17 points
33M, work from home, go to gym 3x / week, moderately healthy lifestyle, sleep time 1-2AM, alcohol 2-3 times a week (but not to the level of getting drunk).
Noticing my low libido / energy and drive despite exercising, I decided to take TA. Gave a testosterone analysis in October, it was slightly below average.
Started with TA 10% from NootropicsDepot, after taking it for a week I started to have random boners throughout the day (hello, puberty!), also I was much more easily aroused than before. The only negative side effect I noticed is that sometimes it was hard to fall asleep, although I was taking TA first thing in the morning after waking up.
Anyway, after 2 months, subjectively my libido was significantly higher, and also I had a little more energy throughout the day, with only rare lethargic hours here and there.
HOWEVER - after 2 months of TA 10% and good results in the gym (+2-3kg muscle mass) I had another analysis and it was slightly lower than the previous one, which was very weird.
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Next, I ordered TA 2%, noticed nothing after a week, started taking 2 per day, and after nearly a month, still not noticing any benefits. So I guess I'll be switching back…
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NoQuote3379 · 1 points
What is the m.o.a of tongkat? Lowers shgb or estradiol? Or both?
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
Tongkat has multiple mechanisms. It modulates the estradiol receptors in the hypothalamus and pituitary gland, which then signals the Leydig cells in the testes to produce more testosterone through GnRH. It also then increases the level of free testosterone by freeing it from SHBG. It can lower estradiol, though. That's the biggest side effect we see. It also midly inhibits aromatase and phosphodiesterase. So it is not one mechanism with Tongkat.