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Comment · Thu, March 31, 2022 · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot

Tens of thousands of fake supplements are being sold on Amazon by SerumLabs (Komprocha, Energecko, Vitablossom, Mistacy, ChriBubble, NMN Max, NMN Plus, Glorifikation, and more)

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AmzConcernedCustomer · 905 points

The title says it all, and I’ve linked more information here. What started as a suspicion (testing just a few products) led to a full-blown 6-month investigation of a single organization selling tens of thousands of fake supplements a month on Amazon under various brands. Hundreds of people are ingesting these products every day (thousands a month), and we are desperately trying to get Amazon and/or regulators to take notice and put an end to this immediately. Nothing we are doing to spread awareness seems to work. We believe the organization behind this is located in china, so any type of class-action lawsuit or direct legal intervention with them is a non-starter, as they will simply disappear and start new brands. All the evidence we’ve compiled so far can be found here, and we are constantly adding more remaining anonymous as this organization has attacked those who have spoken out against them so far (we are updating…

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longdaysout · 1 points

Hey I was thinking abt this again today and one final thought... I know this topic has come up many times but I do think there's enormous trust that ND can be create by openly sharing test results of specific products from specific brands (and how ND compares). A lot of discussion that happens online is very general (e.g. "Thorne has a good rep and delivers good quality", etc) - but I think specifics are where the real value is.

Maybe it sounds counterintuitive, but knowing results like this and how they compare to ND would actually increase my loyalty and repeat ordering ND. It's a bit like of the inverse of when people say "XYZ has no competitors" which always seems too unlikely or too good to be true. But knowing there's a few good / high quality options would advance consumer education and credibility. Also, I'll almost always order from the company who stood up for transparency and quality and besides, ND almost always wins on cost, customer service and shipping speed anyway!

I don't know if there's limitations on being able to do this but maybe worth a couple of experiments and share some results on a certain nootropic or supplement and see what the feedback is like?

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot

The limitation is legal risk. The best way for me to release this info with everyone's names on it is through a nonprofit. It's something I am in the process of setting up. A nonprofit industry association that publicly releases lab testing data on various products in the industry.

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