Comment · Wed, March 17, 2021 · ND Owner
(−)-Epicatechin experiences?
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-keyz_ · 16 points
Any personal experiences? Read some promising comments about its effectiveness for fatigue, sleep and recovering but there's not really much out there.
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-keyz_ · 2 points
Interesting, I would also like to know that. Just tagging u/MisterYouAreSoDumb here.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
I've been taking it daily in the morning with our EGCG tablets. I notice faster fat loss, more muscle tone, quicker wound healing, and I think better sleep.
Regarding the suppression of FSH, and how that might affect adolescents, I am not so sure it actually does. There was a study where they used cadmium chloride to lower FSH and LH, and they showed that green tea actually increased the FSH and LH levels.
Obviously this study design is not exactly an indication of what would happen to FSH and LH by supplementing EGCG or epicatechin in healthy humans. However, if the mechanism was there for epicatechin to lower FSH, why would green tea show the opposite effect? In fact, there is another study showing that a pesticide lowers FSH and LH, but concurrent administration with green tea protects from that.
https://basicandappliedzoology.springeropen.com/track/pdf/10.1186/s41936-019-0122-2
Based on this data, I would have to see some conclusive studies showing epicatechin lowers FSH for me think that was an issue.