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Comment · Wed, April 22, 2020

Issue with excessive dreaming

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faxmulder · 5 points

Hi guys,

my issue, that presented in the last year, is kinda odd, i.e. "too much dreaming". I understand that the REM stage is an essential component of sleep, but I think I have it in excess, and it is a hindrance to reaching the Deep Sleep stage.

I wake up quite often in the night, always from a dream, and seem to continue dreaming as soon as I fall back asleep again. They are not nightmares, I'd say vivid dreams.

It's like my mind is never shutting off when I sleep. I can usually fall asleep without problems (even if I'm a night owl, so I'm going to bed past midnight) and can generally fall asleep again within minutes of waking in the night.

Is there anything that could help me in reducing REM sleep in order to improve deep sleep?

Thank you!

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faxmulder · 1 points

I have a Mi Band, it’s showing that in general I’m having around the minimum value of deep sleep (but in the range of the “correct” values) and near the maximum of REM sleep.
That being said, I think that sleep tracking is subpar in this band, so I don’t know if these values are meaningful.

During summer - autumn I take an antihistamine before sleep for my hay fever. I know that antihistamines can have an effect on choline levels, but now I’m not taking it.

The supplements I’m taking: B complex, astragalus, taurine, spirulina, fish oil and vit D + K... everything during the day.
The only supplements that I was taking in the evening are magnesium and glycine, but I had no improvement with my issue, thus I started taking them during the day.
On working out days I’m taking citrulline, cordyceps and grape seed extract.

I’m considering adding to this stack rhodiola (first thing in the morning) and alpha GPC (when working out, for its supposed growth hormone boosting capabilities). Do you think they could affect my sleep?

Thanks for your help!

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb

You sound like how I was. I had plenty of REM, but almost no deep sleep. Our 10:1 lemon balm helped that a ton. I take that every night now. I also just switched to our new non-zinc Sleep Support, which has the lemon balm in it. I have been sleeping great on it. A very good balance of all sleep stages.

I’m considering adding to this stack rhodiola (first thing in the morning) and alpha GPC (when working out, for its supposed growth hormone boosting capabilities). Do you think they could affect my sleep?

They should not affect your sleep if you take them in the morning.

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