Comment · Mon, December 16, 2019 · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
Where do you guys test your bulk nootropic orders to verify contents?
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zombiehoffa · 17 points
I'm thinking about ordering a few KG of bulk nootropic (NMN specifically but it shouldn't matter for the purposes of this question) from a Chinese manufacturer for personal use over the next few years and I'm having a heck of a time finding a lab to test that it is the purity claimed and what the contaminants are. I'm hoping you guys can suggest a few places. I'm in Canada so a Canadian place would be ideal but I can ship to most places, America being the obvious choice since it's next door.
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u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
We've been trying to release NMN for ages. However, all the batches we have gotten in from suppliers in China have either been fake, very impure, or failed heavy metals limits. Arsenic is the one it seems to keep failing for. Be very careful ordering direct from China. You are going to need to ID, assay, and heavy metals test it. So you are looking at FTIR/NMR, HPLC, and ICP-MS. Eurofins will do heavy metals, but I am not sure about ID and assay. Also, the Chinese will fight you on the results and try to not accept returns for it. Hell, they fight us and we spend millions of dollars with them. So a single one-off individual? They are probably going to tell them to go pound sand. Alibaba buyer protection is a joke, too. Ever actually try to use it? We have, and they rejected our lab data and sided with the seller, even though the data showed it was obviously fake. We've been scammed by 7 year gold certified suppliers before. It might as well be meaningless. Alibaba is a joke.
If someone is quoting you $1/gram for NMN, that's absolutely fake. 100%. If they are quoting you $2/gram, that's likely the 60-70% pure stuff floating around out there. Real pure NMN is expensive, and even then we are still having to reject batches for heavy metals. If you are wanting to take it for longevity, then you should care about purity and heavy metals. You are taking it for longevity, after all. It kind of defeats the purpose if it is impure and laden with heavy metals.