Comment · Fri, February 15, 2019 · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
Bad first Aniracetam experience. Never touch again or try different combinations?
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_hcv · 2 points
My previous and first experience of Aniracetam was the old Mind Nutrition Neurostim blend that they used to sell consisting of roughly 400 mg Ani, 250 mg DMAE and 10 mg Vinpocetine. I had a sample of this blend and experienced amazing benefits a few years ago.
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Recently, I got some Aniracetam from ND and took a first 750 mg dose following a workout and a breakfast consisting of 3 eggs and vegetables.
This initial dose impaired my thinking, reading comprehension, I was tired, foggy, had neck tension and a headache for a good 4-5 hours. Subsequently I bounced right back up to my baseline levels of mental energy and clarity.
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At his point, I'm conflicted: several threads with similar experiences exist on the subreddit, and the advice is inconsistent: "never touch it again", "you're dosing too much", "take less choline", "don't take choline again", etc.
Has anyone had a bad first experience and manage to turn it around? I think I'll try it again. Seems rather silly to buy a whole bottle, take 1 capsule and then throw it away.
If anything I'll document my results here but I'm very interested in hearing about similar experiences.
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u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
The dose you took was almost double what you took before. It could be too high for you, or it could be too much choline from the eggs. DMAE does not raise choline levels in the same way eggs would, or another source like CDP choline. Some people just don't react well to too much choline. I am one of them. I react much better to DMAE or centrophenoxine. DMAE is essentially a choline molecule with one less methyl grouping. Centrophenoxine is a DMAE ester. While they are close in structure to choline, they act very differently in the body/brain.
Then there are some people who just don't react well to aniracetam, but might to other racetams. I actually really like vinpocetine, too. So you may have been getting good results from that. It just depresses my immune system every time I take it. So I avoid it. That is a common side effect. I love the primary effects, though. Experimentation is the only real way to figure out how you will react to things. It can be frustrating, but we are all very different in our body/brain chemistries.