Comment · Wed, December 12, 2012
Which are the most unique RCs/legal drugs out there? As opposed to RCs which 'mimic' the effects of illegal drugs
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ibogaine-ibeginagain · 42 points
Many people would argue that legal drugs, particularly the RC market, exist only as a substitute for illegal drugs - many drugs are seen as 'copycats' of popular illegal drugs such as MDMA, especially with the influx of RCs claiming to be 'the next mephedrone'.
While I agree that there is some truth to this, particularly with regards to cathinone-based stimulants, I believe that many legal (or recently legal) drugs are as unique from illegal drugs as illegal drugs are from each other.
Which RCs/other legal drugs do you feel are unique in their effects, and why?
My list would be:
* MXE - for me, the best dissociative I have ever tried. I feel it bridges the gap between psychedelics and dissociatives. Some similarities with K and DXM, but nowhere near enough to call it a 'Ketamine/DXM substitute'
* DPT - probably the most unique RC tryptamine, the only way I can think of describing it is if DMT/Ayahuasca were a dissociative.
* AMT - both a tryptamine psychedelic AND a stimulant/empathogen? If it weren't for the ridiculously long duration and nausea this would be almost too good to be true.
* 4-HO-DPT - not tried this one, but it seems to be unique in that the effects are describ…
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Aislingblank · 1 points
I've always been confused as to why people tend to get such varied results from Amanitas... nobody's eating them without drying them, right?
Actually, a fair number of reports on erowid involve people who live in areas where A. muscaria grows wild just picking a bunch and scoffing them down raw or basically raw like you would any edible mushroom; basically all of these people get violently ill. I think unwitting carbonic acid consumption is the culprit in many cases of people reacting badly to dried amanitas.
Apparently making "ambrosia" from dried amanitas is really the way to go.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb
I believe that if you boil the A. muscaria at just under 70*C, then it will decarboxylate all the ibotenic acid into muscimol. The boiling point of muscimol is 70*C, so it should be kept lower than that to avoid losing it. That should give you a much better trip than eating it with the ibotenic acid. I've never tried it though, since Phoenix doesn't have any wild mushrooms growing.