Comment · Tue, May 12, 2026 · ND Owner
Grape seed extract lab testing fields blocked out. ND 3rd party testing doesn't have fields blocked out.
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AlwaysWGrace · 6 points
ND doesn't offer grape seed extract. So I was looking for another supplier. Brand sells on Amazon. They sent 3rd party lab report with the manufacturer with Private and confidential stamped across it. the owner is listing his own home address as the business address? They reason I was given "name of our manufacturer is proprietary information" people are trying to steal it...
is this normal? It seems everything is not above board but I usually only buy from ND so I have nothing else to compare to.
ND could you have a grape seed extract or are the supplement benefits not worth it?
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AlwaysWGrace · 3 points
I don't have to look much for transparency If shopping on Amazon. Hence my extreme loyalty to ND. Many Sellers are nothing more than scams. Amazon doesn't put quit to it even when notified. You look up the business address then map out the location. Most of the time the company address is listed as a residence - many times on the RE market or a rental. One time a seller was using 8 The Green Street in DE. 8 The Green Street is a registered agent address with 'suites' that are on paper only. Turns out after much investigation and tracking - seller was actually in India. Seller had won a new small USA company business award from some reputable (not in my book any longer) publication. He had posted his 'award' out on LinkedIn too. the only reason I knew was I used a registered agent at that address for a business I had where I wanted a DE address. Once I saw that one I started looking for others. On the lab report I would not have know anything was amiss if I hadn't seen the ND pages.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
Ohh yeah, there is a whole industry to offering addresses to make businesses look legitimate on paper, but are just shells from overseas. They are getting smarter, too. As you have seen, they will buy existing US businesses for cheap to then use as their registered addresses and names, even though they are in China. Vietnam is a big problem right now on Amazon. Tons of brands out of Vietnam are selling fake supplements, and they hijack listings with tons of reviews, and then turn them into their product pages. Hell, most of the top results when you search for products on Amazon are the absolute WORST brands to buy from, but you can game the system on Amazon. Nobody in their right mind would go to www.satoomi.com and buy a supplement, but for some reason they buy from Satoomi on Amazon because they game the system to be listed at the top, and get thousands of fake reviews. They wouldn't be able to pull their schemes without Amazon.