Comment · Sat, February 24, 2024 · ND Owner
Will ND Ever Develop A Holistic Blend of Different Mushrooms?
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Able-Apricot6278 · 7 points
In Canada, we have a couple of companies which have developed holistic blends of 5 or more mushrooms which positively support each other.
Is this a possibility in the future, as I would rather buy from ND, which uses both alcohol and hot water extraction methods from fruiting bodies.
Two examples in Canada are 5 Mushroom Blend and Complete 360.
Cheers.
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u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
Our Mushroom Magic drink mixes are the start of that, but we are certainly working on more mushroom-based stacks. Most of these other companies making blends are just randomly mixing mushrooms together based on popularity, not science. The Complete 360 you are referring to it likely Purica. If you look at their label, it's just 65mg of a bunch of mushrooms. It's not formulated to take into account different dosages of each, and each dose is too small for the specific mushroom. This is what brands do. They want the popular mushroom names on the label to make consumers think they are getting a properly formulated value product. I call it "painting the tape." That's a stock trading term, but I use it to mean when supplement brands stick low doses of a bunch of stuff in there to trick consumers. 65mg of cordceps isn't going to do anything. It's just there to make you think it will. Moreover, if you see their label, they say:
Organic, full spectrum mushrooms, micronized for superior absorption and assimilation. Cultivated in a quality-controlled facility using only organic plant materials for the fuel source.
This means they are using mycelium on grain. Right now the two biggest suppliers are M2 and Aloha. This is what Aloha states:
Aloha Medicinals currently produces more than 100 different species of mushrooms, using a proprietary solid-state fermentation process unlike any other.
For one, it's not proprietary. LOL. What they are doing is growing the mycelium of these mushrooms in grain bags. Some of them use rice. Some use oats. Some use sorghum. They let the mycelium innoculate these grain backs for a few weeks, then they grind it all up and call it a mushroom. We test all their materials in the lab. They are non-detect every single time we test them. We don't see ANY actives from these mushroom in there. It's pathetic. M2 does the same thing, but they use oats most of the time. They are better than Aloha, but way way less than what we see in our fruiting body mushrooms grown on wood substrates like these mushrooms grow in nature. These brands use these suppliers because they sell them things CHEAP in comparison to traditionally grown fruiting body mushrooms. You'll get these suppliers telling you they let the bags fruit, and then grind it all up, so you are getting "full spectrum." However, our lab testing doesn't lie. It's garbage.
So anyway, long story short, yes. We are going to do more mushroom blends on top of our Mushroom Magic drink mixes. However, we will only do them as scientifically formulated blends, not painting the tape to make you think there is more in there, and we will only use properly grown and lab testing mushrooms. I've held off on doing a ton of new mushrooms products till recently, because we have been quietly doing R&D and lab research in the background. There are a lot of brands making a lot of claims in the mushroom space without evidence, or with fake COAs from fraudulent dry labs. I prefer to just put our heads down and do the science before we bring something out and make more claims. That's why it took us so long to bring out Erinamax and our Ultra Potent Reishi. It's why you have seen us hold off on mushroom blends. I want to do things right from day one, so I prefer to wait till I am 100% confident in the product.