Comment · Fri, September 1, 2023 · ND Owner
Product Request: Liposomal Vitamin C
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Tillerfen · 16 points
I know u/MYASD is not a fan of putting extra bells and whistles on vitamin C supplements but I have a genuine case for making a liposomal vit c.
I have gastritis and even the pH buffered mineral ascorbates in Infini-C cause a sharp jabbing pain in my stomach. Most people with gastritis probably still can't tolerate Infini-C.
You don't have to add the bullshit like rose hips, acerola extract, bioflavanoids, etc etc, but please at least make a liposomal vitamin-C. I've spent a while looking at the other brands but I legitimately just do not trust the brands or the potency is too low and too expensive. Requesting ND make a liposomal vitamin c.
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OPengiun · 4 points
I'm so sorry man... that sounds more than stressful. Beyond stressful. Facing that shit every. single. day. for years.
Apologies if you answered this somewhere already, but is there anything we can as individuals for this issue in the industry? I've already been informing my friends/family and showing them a lot of the info you/ND has provided (thank you so much, by the way) exposing straight up fraud in the industry. But what else can us individuals do?
You got one of the most concentrated brand evangelist bases out there in the supp industry, myself included--we're highly motivated and feel strongly about this issue (which is why we choose ND as a vendor). We got thousands here, what could we do that could help push the industry in the right direction? Is there some sort of nonprofit fighting for industry correction?
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
There is not much individuals can do, other than educating as many people as you can about the state of the industry, and why people should care about the lab testing and quality control of the products they are putting into their bodies. It's pretty stupid we even have to deal with this situation... The basics of proving that the product you are selling is what you claim it is should literally be step one! Or course products should be what they claim to be!!! It's really dumb we even have to say it out loud! Imagine if the industry standard in the steel industry was as bad as the supplement industry. There would be buildings falling down all over! Steel companies have to prove that their structural steel meets specs before it can be used in construction, yet supplements it's just a crap shoot? Totally insane! The industry standard needs to change. I shouldn't have to be here for a decade screaming about it! I should be focused on the more regarding and cooler sides of advancing the industry, not the very basics of products being fake or real...
Is there some sort of nonprofit fighting for industry correction?
There will be soon. I have always planned on setting one up. However, the claims of bias would always taint it if I did it. I guess someone in the industry, who has a vested interest in ensuring the long-term stability of said industry, is incapable of being objective... So other people are going to be setting up this nonprofit, and I will just help fund it and give expertise when needed. However, it will be completely independent of me. My lab director was just at AOAC, and met with a bunch of people there that want to be involved. These are people on the boards of places like USP and NSF. We also have another large supplement brand in the US interested in working on it with us, too. So hopefully this will be the start of something that can force real change. For me to do it, I would have to no longer run a supplement brand, which I have thought about doing. However, then I am limited in the other side of advancement that I really do enjoy, so I am happy to give my blessing to others to run with the nonprofit. Then we can partner with them as Omnient Labs to provide all the testing for the nonprofit. I think it will be really nice if done right.