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Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · ND Owner

Independent Lab Testing Results Of Supplements On The Market

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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 204 points

Hey everyone, I saw a new research study today that I wanted to bring up. It highlights why my main mission over the past 10 years has been to not only advance the lab testing and quality control standards of the industry, but also to educate consumers on what to look out for, and how things work in the background. We are all ingesting these products! We are putting them into our bodies, so it's crucial that companies selling them do everything necessary to ensure they are what they claim to be, and are pure and free from contaminants. That is unfortunately the vast exception to the rule. Many of you may remember my post about turkesterone results from last year.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NootropicsDepot/comments/va9kvu/lab\_testing\_results\_of\_turkesterone\_beta/

That whole situation blew way up, and every jabroni on YouTube was making videos about it. Some were saying I was a liar and fraud, and just trying to sell products. Some were saying I was in for massive lawsuits. Most were just doing it to get their 5 minutes of attention on a controversial topic. Here we are are 13…

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Owlsarebest · 8 points

I work in the pharma industry and you wouldn't believe how many ISO / GMP certifications are pure fictions with no relation to what actually goes on inside the facility

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

Ohh, I would! We catch it all the time. We have caught multiple completely fake dry labs making fake COAs for our competitors. Those are just outright fraud, with zero chemistry taking place. However, the almost more concerning thing is all the bad data we have found from real ISO accredited labs. Many of them get ISO accredited for something simple, like ICP-MS heavy metals testing or microbial analysis, then go off and offer complex chromatography analysis for novel extract/compounds that don't have compendial methods or standards. Consumers see the lab is ISO accredited, and they don't know how that works, so they assume all the work from the lab is to that standard. However, it's not. It's downright garbage. Then someone that works in contract manufacturing told me recently how many manufacturers are gaming the NSF system, too. They get their warehouse certified with NSF, then start claiming their whole facility is, when they never even attempted to get their manufacturing or quality systems NSF certified. It's really scams all the way down. Just dig a little further anywhere, and you will find some shady fuck doing something to make more money. It's disgusting, which is why I am so jaded about everything these days!

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