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Comment · Tue, June 13, 2023 · ND Owner

c3g experiences?

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ViperAMD · 18 points

I'd stay away for now, they are being very coy about mycotoxin testing.

Edit: Woahh bulk downvotes! It's a legitimate concern:
https://www.reddit.com/r/NootropicsDepot/comments/1445j8j/comment/jnezs3a/

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

Holy baby tuxedo Jesus! My wife is 9 months pregnant, so I have not had a chance to be on Reddit as much. Emiel has also been busy with a bunch of shit over in the Netherlands, so he has not been on as much the past week. We're not ignoring anyone. We just haven't been on.

The raw material used in the extract is tested for mycotoxins before it is put through the process. However, we do not test for it on our end because it has never been a problem. Rice under normal conditions is not conducive for growth of Aspergillus and aflatoxin contamination. This is especially true for black rice, because anthocyanins are anti-fungal. It only happens when not properly stored correctly with moisture contamination or really high humidity, which we would see on our LOD and water activity testing. That being said, since people are concerned, we have sent the C3G off for mycotoxin testing. One of our partner labs can do the test on their triple quad LC-MS. If people are really concerned, we can look into building a method in house. We would just need a plate reader to get the ppb level detection limits needed. That would allow us to do other ELISA testing methods as well, so it might be a good idea.

This looks interesting, too: https://www.vicam.com/category/aflatoxin-testing-solutions?xcid=ppc-ppc_18330

They are a sub company of Waters, who we do a lot of work with on our UPLCs and mass specs. We're actually a beta test lab for Waters' new HPLC/UPLC software. We'll reach out to them and ask about these kits.

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