Comment · Tue, June 6, 2023 · ND Owner
A LEGAL QUESTION FOR... MrYouAreSoDumb
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supplement-p · 29 points
Hello MrYouAreSoDumb. Because of your background, I assume you know quite allot about the law in regard to supplements.
I guess you are familiar with the NAD+ precursors NMN and NR. Now people seem eager to use the reduced forms of them NMNH and NRH because they are more effective. Reduced NMN is being sold for high prices by one company, and reduced NR is not even sold to the public yet I believe. I could feel the difference from them, so they are worth taking.
So, let's say NMNH and NRH can be made at home from NMN and NR "very easily, very cheaply and very quickly", in a few minutes, spending $5 every few years on top of the cost of the NMN or NR. So basically people can have reduced NMNH and NRH for the same price as NMN and NR, made at home, easier than making a cup of coffee.
The question is... Will I be breaking any laws from sharing the information to easily make the reduced forms? So easy that not many will pay to buy them already reduced. I have not stolen anyone's technique for producing it, I just applied science. If I knew that NMN and NR were already in their oxidised forms, I would have made the reduced versions years ago.
So, I am wondering if legally I can…
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supplement-p · 16 points
I tried a few different reduction agents, and magnesium worked. I am going on the colour change, and the effect it gives me from taking it, and comparing to the colour of pictures I have seen of reduced NMN before I started experimenting... I make ubiquinol from ubiquinone every day by making a nanoemulsion and reducing with ascorbic acid and methylene blue. Tried magnesium, but it make a big bubbly mess and hard bits of ubiquinone and a bit of ubiquinol... I just know from the colour change and the science that the NMN has reduced into NMNH.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
We'll definitely try it in the lab, then analyze it to confirm. Thanks for bringing it up! It's a cool chemistry experiment regardless.