Comment · Tue, December 20, 2022 · ND Owner
Cognance: waste of money
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Neurogence · 33 points
I had taken a break from all nootropics for about two years or so. Recently I got back into dabbling, and saw quite a few positive posts on cognance. So I decided to try it out. I've been taking it for about two weeks now with no noticeable results. I tried to increase it to 200mg but still not noticing anything.
Originally, I had stopped taking mostly all nootropics due to lack of effects. I'm afraid all these new substances also have very negligible effects. I've tried hundreds of nootropics. The substance I've benefitted from the most is aniracetam, but I don't know where to find it these days.
How are you all experiencing positive and even "tangible" effects from substances like cognance? Is this all placebo? I don't buy the idea that everyone's biology is different. Substances that are effective have an effect on mostly everyone (example, caffeine). Whether positive or negative, you will feel something from caffeine. But most of the nootropics out there I barely feel anything from them. At this point I don't know what the difference is between something like cognance and a sugar pill.
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sxaxrxmxs · 5 points
I think OP may have an overlooked small point that there seems to be a greater variability in certain nootropics than other substances. I'm curious if your lab director would feel the effects of caffeine alcohol or painkillers for example. Yet he doesn't respond to so many nootropics. Nootropics must therefore have greater variability, and that's fine. Things like nicotine, alcohol, and painkillers are so embedded within society because they work so reliably overall. So it then comes down to managing expectation. I think people's expectations are warped by stronger substances. Nootropics you have to look abit closer for effects, also I notice you may think your a non-responder to a nootropic but infact your low on a certain vitamin, you haven't had enough sleep, it hasn't had enough time to accumulate in your system, it may need to be cycled.
Its a skill in itellf to be able to discern and distingush effects and account for different variables. I find that is very challenging, yet people often talk in a way that is something we have an immediate conscious acces too. I think people who are better at this skill will find that many things including a lot nootropics and diet changes are having an impact. But if you cant seperate the variability in how you feel then you may not feel like anything is doing anything unless it is a substance with an immediate and powerful change in…
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
I'm curious if your lab director would feel the effects of caffeine alcohol or painkillers for example. Yet he doesn't respond to so many nootropics.
I am not just talking nootropics. I am talking anything. He doesn't really react to caffeine, either. Not much with alcohol. He has a high pain tolerance, so never needs pain killers. It's across the board. How he describes it is that he doesn't have good days and bad days. He has all neutral days. Not a whole lot affects him, both pharmacologically and psychologically. He says that he is just very good at ignoring his body and emotions. We had the owners of a big kava company out the other day to our facility. We are partnering with them on some stuff. They gave us a bag of their private reserve kava that is very strong. /u/Pretty-Chill did his full traditional preparation of it, and we all stood around and drank kava together. This shit was very strong! After a couple cups it hit me. I was legit impaired; so much so, that I was afraid to get in my car to drive home. I was that inebriated. A few of us drank it, and we all felt the strong effects. My lab director did as well... nothing. No effects at all. I legit had trouble walking, but he felt nothing. Some people are like that. Things just don't affect them. We can speculate all we want as to why that is, but I've seen it in the real world multiple times now. Some people are just chronic non-responders.
Edit: I just asked him, and he said he doesn't feel Vicodin (hydrocodone) either.