Comment · Fri, August 5, 2022 · ND Owner

Can I be a non responder to tongkat and cistanche?

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chitownkidd23 · 4 points

I’m taking 200mg tongkat Ali 5 times a week, and 400mg cistanche every night before bed. Should I bump the tongkat up to 400mg?

I got my testosterone checked twice, the results actually came out lower this time for some reason before I started taking anything. It went from 463 to 413.

The cistanche does give me good quality sleep, and CRAZY vivid dreams, so I will keep taking it regardless. It has been better for me than any sleeping pill I’ve ever taken; but for some reason i get anxiety about 45 minutes after I take it when I lay down. That’s just a little side issue though; if anyone would know why that happens I would appreciate it.

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Phonafied · 1 points

I bought this from Amazon which was legit:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B078XQKZ58?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

There’s some other brands that are definitely not legit which I returned.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

We actually bought and tested that stuff. It's not even cistanche...

https://imgur.com/a/8R3qzv2

It contains a small amount of echinacoside and verbascoside. However, it's much much less than ours. Our extract contains 78 times more echinacoside and 333 times more verbascoside. The levels in that product wouldn't be pharmacologically active, so that Amazon stuff is a completely different plant that is likely spiked with something else to make it feel stronger.

https://imgur.com/a/j2SQXXD

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