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Comment · Sun, July 3, 2022 · ND Owner

Stacking suggestions for physique/T level/sleep

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weiwei95032 · 7 points

\*warning; long winded post to provide details

Seeking some suggestions from ya’ll who been in the Nootropics world much longer that I have!

Currently taking the following for essentially possible improved physique improvements with improved T and sleep hopefully.

* Tongkat 10% (morning)
* HGW 50% (morning)
* Cistanche (after first meal)
* Beta-ecydesterone (after workout)
* Epicatechen (whenever, just not close to workout)
* Apigenin 50mg (just introduced it before bed will be 3rd night today)

Also bought nobiletin but haven’t started on it yet

34 y/o male, 5’10”, \~160#., \~13.5% body fat via Dexa scan, lifting for the past \~12 years and running for longer. Lifting \~6x a week essentially running a PHUL split with additional running 15-25 minutes 3x/week. Recently got a testosterone panel taken due to curiosity and to confirm any suspicions of low T. My usual physician didn’t want to order the test as I am still fairly young, not obese, no hypertension/diabetes, no erectile dysfunction; had to go get my own at Quest Labs

Lab results came back as the following:

Testosterone, Free: 30.6 pg/mLTestosterone, Total: 370 ng/dLSHBG: 47 nmol/LFSH: 5.6 mIU/mLLH: 2.0 mIU/mLProlacti…

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ryzthor · 1 points

I am literally taking exactly all of these supplements you listed with the same goals as you. In addition to that I’m taking shilajit in sleep support and gotu kola.

Would any one of these have any effects on gyno at all? As I’m prone to it. Would appreciate your input on this /u/MisterYouAreSoDumb

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

That stack shouldn't cause gyno. For those prone to it, taking P5P is a good idea, as that will lower prolactin. Vitamin E will as well.

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