Comment · Tue, May 3, 2022 · ND Owner
Opinions please
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LewDog1991 · 14 points
In your experience what is the most potent ND product and what effects did it have for you?
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alpacasb4llamas · 2 points
I just realized I have amazing herbs BSO not BS's like I originally had stated. But they say their BSO has 96mg THQ per $1 when you buy it off Amazon so thats what I'm going by. If you can show that yours is better I'll absolutely 100% switch to ND as I would prefer to use your products whenever possible. Also while you're here I asked a while ago about a possible arjuna terminalia extract as verdure sciences have their own patented form and it has its own incredible clinical trials. Is there any news on that front?
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
I will buy that one to run through the lab, too. That's a big claim they are making. It's also a MASSIVELY wide standardization. One of their listings claims 48-130mg thymoquinone per dose... So one bottle you get might have 48mg per dose. Another might have 130mg? How would you reliably dose over time?!? You would not be able to keep effects consistent. One bottle might have 2.7X the thymoquinone. Crazy range that should we worked out in the production process. Batch-to-batch consistency is paramount, otherwise how can you reliably determine doses that work for you? Also, why do they have so many listings with differing claims?
https://www.amazon.com/Amazing-Herbs-Premium-Black-Soft-Gels/dp/B017KQZC6I/
That one claims 25mg thymoquinone from 1.25g of 5X-TQ Nigella sativa. That's a 2% thymoquinone claim.
https://www.amazon.com/Amazing-Herbs-Premium-Black-Packaging/dp/B0009EYIQ4/
That one claims 48mg thymoquinone from 5g of 5X-TQ Nigella sativa. That's a 0.96% claim.
https://www.amazon.com/Amazing-Herbs-Cold-Pressed-Black-Seed/dp/B0009J69I4
That one claims 48-130mg of thymoquinone from 5g of 5X-TQ Nigella sativa. So 0.96% on the low end and 2.6% on the high end. It also says "naturally occurring" on it. So it is not a standardized extract, then? It ranges because it is naturally occurring? Your bottle claims 96mg thymoquinone? Their stuff is all over the place! This is my problem with lots of our competitors out there. It's all just random. No strict quality control to keep things in a tight range.
Also while you're here I asked a while ago about a possible arjuna terminalia extract as verdure sciences have their own patented form and it has its own incredible clinical trials. Is there any news on that front?
It's still a possibility. Not sure about Verdure's, as it doesn't seem that novel. Doing our own extract probably makes more sense. We just have a bunch in the pipeline ahead of it.