Comment · Thu, August 12, 2021 · ND Owner
I have to give up tongkat ali
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FriedDuckEggs · 26 points
I’m on week three of ND 10% tongkat ali and I just can’t get over this extreme fatigue and demotivation. I’ve been taking it 5 days on and 2 days off and noticed that I’m much better on my days off. When I get back on TA on Mondays I feel like I got hit by a train with fatigue and knock out in bed for 8-9 hours.
On my third week I tried reducing it to half a dose a day for 5 on 2 off. Same issues. I also tried adding iodine from a multi. Still no good. I’m now replacing TA with 9 mg boron daily.
For reference: I had my T levels tested a month before and 2 days into tongkat. In between those months I added zinc and weight lifting, which I’m in pretty sure are the reasons for the increase.
June 4th:
Total T: 338 ng/dL (249-836)
Cortisol: 6.4 ug/ (6-18)
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July 29th (2 days of TA):
Total T: 502 ng/dL (249-836)
Free T: 9.87 ng/dL (6.00-27.00)
SHBG: 36.8 nmol/L (16.5-55.9)
Estradiol: <25 pg/ml (<43.2)
Edit: I have ordered 5 mg tabs of DHEA and will be testing this with TA on a 5/2 schedule. Will update this post with my findings.
Edit 2: I have given up on TA.
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FriedDuckEggs · 2 points
Thanks for the reply. I'm also interested in a recommended starting dose for DHEA.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
I'll copy what I wrote above:
That's very person-dependent. I am a big proponent of starting low and moving up to find what works best for you. As little as 5mg is a good dose for some people, and others go up to 100-200mg. You could always get 5mg and 25mg DHEA, which would allow you flexibility to mess with dosages till you find what works best for your body.