Who else wants a high potency high quality standardized pycnogenol supplement at an affordable price?

Comment · Mon, March 1, 2021 · 20 pts

Pycnogenol is actually a trademarked name for a pine bark extract. We are working on a pink bark extract, though! It will have a different name, but will be a really cool one!

Comment · Mon, March 1, 2021 · 7 pts

We have a shitload we are working on, but there is also a shitload more out there we are not. LOL

Comment · Mon, March 1, 2021 · 5 pts

No firm ETA yet. We are trying to decide on the final product, actually. Would you prefer a lower cost generic, or would you actually like a certified organic one from a single origin forest in northern Finland that cost

Comment · Mon, March 1, 2021 · 9 pts

Well 90% of the shit out there is from China right now, from unknown forests that are certainly not certified organic, and who knows how sustainable. A lot of it is also not French Maritime Pine Bark, but is a similar sp

Comment · Mon, March 1, 2021 · 3 pts

I'd have to do some back-to-back testing to really have an opinion on effects. I would imagine we could create a generic one that worked just as well, to be honest. The benefits would be more from the sustainability side

Comment · Mon, March 1, 2021 · 7 pts

Yeah, same bioavailability. It's just a more sustainable and traceable source. I am leaning towards people not caring so much about that, though.

Comment · Mon, March 1, 2021 · 1 pts

That's what I figured. Sometimes simple and less expensive is better.

Comment · Mon, March 1, 2021 · 4 pts

Roger that! I think that is what most people are going to say, too. I think we can create a generic version that is just as good, or better, for less price. We will likely go that route, then.

Comment · Tue, March 2, 2021 · 2 pts

That's because most brands are absolute dog shit, with no real testing of any kind. We'll buy some from a bunch of brands to test in the lab once we do it. I would bet big money multiple brands are cutting Pycnogenol wit

Comment · Tue, March 2, 2021 · 3 pts

Cheaper doesn't always mean worse. The issue is consistency and ensuring other impurities are not there. Also, listing it as the correct thing. If you call something French maritime pine bark, but it is actually Chinese

Comment · Tue, March 2, 2021 · 2 pts

If we release one, it will definitely be consistent.

Comment · Fri, March 5, 2021 · 4 pts

Definitely would not be within 20%. When you have controlled, traced, and validated stuff from certified organic forests in places like Finland, we are talking at least 3-5X as much. Competing with China is next to impos

Comment · Mon, March 8, 2021 · 5 pts

Absolutely. If we find a difference that I feel will affect the quality or effects, we will obviously not use China. However, if we do testing and beta trials and can't really find much difference, would merely knowing t

Comment · Fri, March 12, 2021 · 5 pts

Yeah, the data usually confirms that. Consumers like to think they would pay more for non-China-sourced, but then their actions prove otherwise.