Comment · Thu, June 25, 2020 · ND Owner
Taking KSM-66 and Guta Kola, developed some sort of insomnia?
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ogloque · 6 points
I stupidly started taking both about a week apart from each other (KSM first) and have been taking them both for about a month now so I am uncertain which might be the cause, if any. I have seen changes in my mood for the better: I am less stressed, it's easier to "let things go", and I generally have less obtrusive thoughts.
However, I've also developed insomnia or something similar in that I cannot sleep for more than 3-5 hours at a time. I am posting this after getting 3.5 hours of sleep and feel completely unable to go back to sleep. Again, I am not sure if this is actual insomnia or not but it sure is a sleep loss problem of some sort.
This seems counterintuitive because every time I Google both, they are said to improve sleep or even be used to treat insomnia individually, but perhaps taking both is causing a problem?
I had never had this happen except when taking a particular antidepressant about two years ago, I had similar results in mood but quit because of the same type of "insomnia", along with other sides, which stopped fairly quickly after I discontinued use of it. I had seen similar benefits in mood from that drug. I tried many others with no benefits or lots of…
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u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
Ashwagandha is a strange one with sleep. Some people has it improve, and others stay awake. This is why we did not use an ashwagandha in our Sleep Support. The different extract also is variable. We did blinded testing at our offices of KSM-66, Sensoril, and our in-house ashwagandha. It's was pretty evenly split. Some people were sedated by the KSM, while others were simulating. Some were sedated by the Sensoril, and others were not. People's preference varied, too. You have to remember, there are a TON of withanolides in ashwagandha. Everyone just standardizes to total withanolides, but we have been working on making that more granular. The effects of one withanolide are totally different than another. Grouping them all together doesn't really make sense. We even discovered a new withanolide that doesn't have a whole lot of data, but it very mood-boosting in our testing. So we are actually working on two new extracts in the background. I know it sounds crazy when we already carry 3 ashwagandha extracts, but I am telling you... the botanical diversity with ashwagandha is immense! I can make one extract feel like a totally different plant than another extract.