Comment · Sat, June 6, 2020
PSA: Sleep Support WITH Sucrosomial Zinc is 50% off right now!
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relevantme · 11 points
https://nootropicsdepot.com/sleep-support-capsules-sucrosomial-zinc/
This is obviously a stupid good deal if you are like me and the zinc didn't negatively impact falling asleep. I bought 120ct even though I already have a full bottle because I know I'll eventually use it.
For those who don't know: They removed Sucrosomial Zinc from Sleep Support because ~10% (I remember seeing a MYASD post about it, I believe this was the figure given) of people reported insomnia with it, and it was narrowed down to being the Sucrosomial Zinc. They're obviously trying to deplete stocks of this formulation, so get it while you can especially if you know you're not one of the 10%.
What they were answering
Direct reply to the original post — see the thread post above.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb
Yeah, it was about 10% of people that got this effect. The issue is that even if 90% of people didn't, the 10% that did stayed up instead of falling asleep. That's the opposite effect we want. Our plan was to just have our Amazon listing be the zinc formula till we ran out. However, the people with side effects are always the loudest. It was going to screw up our Amazon listing in such a way that it would be difficult to recover from. So I made the decision to pull all the inventory back, make a second listing on ND, then give 50% off to sell through it.
Sleep is such a hard thing to enhance. We spent by far the longest on the R&D and beta testing for Sleep Support. It was over a year of work, and took 6 formulations. However, not a single one of our beta testers had this reaction to the zinc. So we did not catch it. Only when we started getting feedback from hundreds of customers after launch did we figure this out. We are trying to optimize our beta testing program, but sample size is key. One cool thing that came out of this is us figuring out the complex mechanisms zinc can have in the body, and how those can affect sleep. Literally nobody is talking about that. Because our customers are much more advanced and willing to share data and test things, we can figure out interactions/mechanisms that might go unnoticed otherwise. I am trying to determine how to more formally leverage that in the future, because it is pretty cool that we can figure some of these things out with the help of the community! I think if we could properly use the data from our customers, paired with our beta testing and research, we could have much more comprehensive educational guides for everyone. Not to mention designing more effective supplements. Using existing scientific research is great. However, we are just so complex. So leveraging the feedback from thousands of customers over time could be a powerful tool to spot effects and interactions that limited formal studies might not see.