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Comment · Fri, December 20, 2019

Anyone else getting insomnia from sleep support?

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Greyone · 7 points

For the first week, Sleep Support was giving me the best sleep of my life. At the peak of the benefits, I was hitting 3:30+ of deep sleep and waking up feeling incredible. Now that's all changed. It still causes drowsiness, and I almost doze off but it feels like my brain is "stuck" on. I've tried adding plenty of magnesium, 300mcg of melatonin, 400mg of phosphatidylserine, and 4mg copper (to offset zinc) but nothing works. The only way I'm able to "turn off" the weird head sensation is with a dose of ZZZquil.

Is it the Zinc that has somehow started causing too much stimulation? I'm hoping to soon try supplementing with the individual components one by one but need to wait until I have the extra funds. It was pretty devastating to start experiencing this since the initial week was so pleasant. Nothing else was added or removed from my stack at this time, and I'm taking very little else at the moment.

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Greyone · 2 points

I take horse chestnut in the mornings, but I could try removing it. It's quite useful for helping with water balance.

I'll definitely try the lemon balm tablets, they're stronger than Cyracos right? I didn't notice anything subjectively when I was taking it, but I also didn't have sleep tracker at that time. Your issue definitely seems similar to mine, so it might work for me as well.

By the way, do you find 300mcg of melatonin actually seems to worsen your HRV? I need to experiment with it more, but I find that blue light blocking glasses are more useful.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb

I like our 10:1 lemon balm better than Cyracos. I actually find Cyracos to be more stimulating. It's good for the day, but definitely not for the night.

I do not like melatonin for regular use. I only use it in very specific situations where I need to reset my circadian rhythm. So if I am jet-lagged because I jumped a bunch of timezones, I will use melatonin to get myself onto the local timezone's sleep cycle. I always use blue light filtering software on my screens after sunset. That's critical.

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