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Comment · Tue, October 1, 2019

Why is Green Tea Extract Brown?

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AromaticAminoAcid · 2 points

Assuming it browns with age?

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Chargers95 · 3 points

Any word on the sleep stack? I've been waiting patiently for its release!

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Should be at our facility this week sometime. Then as long as it passes testing in our lab, and we get everything we need for packaging, it should be up on the site very soon!

Sorry for the delay. I had to change the formula again. So this is number six! Some things tested differently than expected, and we decided to go direct to India for a few things. So we made some last minute changes. We were ready to start encapsulating it a couple weeks back, but I put it on hold to do one last round of beta testing. I was not going to be able to sleep if I didn't double check that the changes we made to some of the ingredients were going to work as I expected them to. I did not want to go in blind on a full production batch without some beta test data from people that had tried the previous formulations. So I decided that a couple more weeks delay would not kill us, and it would ensure I was not making a mistake on the formula changes. Luckily the new formula works better than any of the others, so we are good to go!

Doing shit right takes FOREVER! Seriously, my team had to work with some big labs in India to figure out why their numbers were coming out inflated on a certain ingredient. It turns out their methods were spot on. That was not the issue. It was that their reference standard was degraded. We even worked with Alkemist to help verify our internal lab numbers. In the end our numbers were correct. This supplier in India has some of the most complete and accurate documentations of their methods we have ever seen; way better than anyone in China. So we could not figure out why their numbers were so inflated. However, if you are using a degraded reference standard, your numbers are going to look higher than they should be. That's because a proper assay is not just using area percent on the HPLC/UPLC. That's shitty chemistry. You need to do a mathematical equation between your sample and a known-good reference standard. If that standard is half as pure as you think it is, your sample will look double as pure as it actually is. This is why using proper sources and orthogonal techniques are so crucial.

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