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Comment · Wed, December 3, 2025 · ND Owner

DIY Ecklonia Cava Topical Serum

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SpaghettiJohnny · 19 points

Background:

I've been using ecklonia cava orally since it was released by ND (7 months), with noticeable effects on hair across my whole body, esp. with hairs I frequently trim coming in more quickly. I bought the powder when it first released as well with goal of using it as a topical on my head to help with thinning areas, but sat on using it for quite some time until beginning of this month before vacation.

Additionally, and related, I've been using a red laser light brush 1-3x a week for 11 months, and have taken supportive supplements such as gelatin, b-vitamins, mushrooms, minerals, EPA/DHA for years. I do not use Minoxidil at all now, but have tried it briefly \~5 years ago and hated how greasy the formulations were, I didn't even finish the bottle I got.

At first I tried just mixing the ecklonia cava powder into things such as leave-in conditioner, or aloe-vera gel, but with very little success. It doesn't mix in well as-is and therefore doesn't make good contact with the skin or get into the skin. So I set off with a different approach and lightly researched cosmetics. This led me to find Propanediol 1,3. It's a "natural" solvent, humectant, hair and skin conditi…

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DoctorBoneMarrow · 2 points

Create an official Nootropics Depot account on TikTok and expose all the conversations with those influencers to create outrage among buyers. If that doesn't gain traction, focus on exposing the brands claiming not to use fillers, that will cause the most outrage.

Word will spread among the influencers. The next time you show them failing lab results, they'll stop promoting that product out of fear of being exposed. Instead, they'll 'appreciate' the heads-up and pivot to ND just to save face. Easy! Lol

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

Man, I have enough enemies already. I've tried negative messaging for 13 years. Exposing fraud and trying to get consumers to care is what I have always done. It hasn't really worked. Calling out bad actors is how I got into all this. What has it gotten me? I almost went to prison because two competitors I called out lied about me to the government. People shill against us and try to make people think we are lying to sell more products. People shoot the messenger and have a negative feel about us because of the drama around things. Even people that trust our products and buy from us have a negative view of how I handle things, because of the shilling and BS that happens around what we do. Like whatever... I don't personally give a shit about what people think about me. I am perfectly fine being the asshole of the story trying to advocate for the right thing. However, what I do care about is whether or not my efforts are effective. If this negative messaging, making enemies, calling out the BS that I see isn't as effective as other strategies, I would prefer other strategies.

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