Comment · Fri, June 21, 2024 · ND Owner
Momentous has stopped selling Fadogia Agrestis
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allreadytatitu · 32 points
I think this is worth sharing, since I guess they were the most trustworthy vendors of FA (affiliated with a lot of big names of the industry, Hubermann among many others), but they discontinued because the research behind this compound doesn’t hold up to their standards.
I guess now there is absolutely no real FA left on the market (if what Momentous was selling even was real), and to me, this kinda marks the end of the hype around Fadogia.
What they were answering
KodiakDog · 2 points
Any chance you could explain how to read that graph? Is it basically saying that there is no Fadogia compounds in there?
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
None of the expected marker compounds from Fadogia agrestis stem were present. This is not surprising, because Fadogia agrestis was a fairly rare plant from specific parts of Africa till Huberman went on Joe Rogan and promoted it. Literally overnight we had a bunch of Chinese suppliers offering us "totally real" Fadogia. Chinese sellers will sell you fake anything to make a buck. It happened immediately after that Rogan episode. Reference standards didn't even exist yet! Chromadex had to work to make BRMs for it, so you could properly test it. Before that happened, everyone was just YOLOing it. It's not surprising that multiple brands were selling fake stuff. Bringing out a novel plant extract takes a lot of time and scientific validation work. That should be done BEFORE you sell to customers. Pretty much zero brands are doing that, though. It's much easier to just sell what you claim to be something, then rake in the profits for as long as you can. If the music stops, just lie and spin it like you are discontinuing it out of the goodness of your heart.