Comment · Tue, January 24, 2023 · ND Owner
Tart Cherry 🍒 comparison?
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AK-Wal87 · 23 points
So im a little bored and curious. I'm sure that the cheaper brand is lacking a little as far as purity goes, but my question is why is the CVS brand so much lighter and non reactive to water the way that ND's is? Does it have to do with purity or ingredient?
CVS (cerasus pseudocerasus)
"From 250mg of a 4:1 extract"
***each capsule 1000mg
ND (cerasus vulgaris)
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Dr_Cam · 3 points
Thanks for the follow-up. Two discrepancies I'm curious about.
CherryPure has 13.75% Anthocyanins according to this paper: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4880859/
"the 480 mg CherryPURE™ supplement provided in the current study would be equivalent to 51.3 mL (17.4 fl oz) of tart cherry juice providing 991 mg of phenolic compounds and 66 mg of anthocyanin." (66/480=0.1375)
1. CherryPure is pink in color, while yours is a deep dark purple. If anthocyanins are what contributes to the pigment, shouldn't yours be a higher %?
2. CherryPure is what's used in LifeExtension. You said you tested thiers and "Life Extension had 0.16% the anthocyanins as us." That doesn't seem to line up with the 13.75% in the paper, unless I did my math wrong?
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
This study was funded by Anderson Global Group, LLC (Irvine, CA, USA) and Shoreline Fruit, LLC (Traverse City, MI, USA) through an unrestricted research grant to Texas A&M University.
Those are the people behind CherryPURE. They funded the study.
Prior analytical testing conducted in 2012 by Advanced Laboratories (Salt Lake City, UT, USA) demonstrated that 31 mL (10.5 fl oz) of tart cherry juice provides approximately 600 mg of phenolic compounds and 40 mg of anthocyanins, which is equivalent to consuming 290 mg of CherryPURE™. Using the same comparison, the 480 mg CherryPURE™ supplement provided in the current study would be equivalent to 51.3 mL (17.4 fl oz) of tart cherry juice providing 991 mg of phenolic compounds and 66 mg of anthocyanins. The supplements were prepared for distribution by Shoreline Fruit, LLC and sent to Advanced Laboratories (Salt Lake City, UT, USA) to quantify the nutritional contents of the powdered tart cherry supplements. Both supplements were prepared in capsules identical in taste and appearance. The supplements were packaged in generic bottles by Shoreline Fruit, LLC for double blind administration.
They worded this VERY carefully! Texas A&M didn't test the anthocyanin content of CherryPURE. They said it was EQUIVALENT to what was in CherryPURE, but then made it clear that the CherryPURE was prepared for them by the people that funded the study, then tested by another lab. I can tell you right now that ain't no tart cherry with 13.75% anthocyanins coming in pink. That shit would be dark purple. It's literally in the structure of the molecule. Look at the chromophores in the anthocyanin structure. If this is what is used in Life Extension's product, I am calling LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE! Not just little bits of lies. Their fucking pants are literally on fire! This is a stop, drop, and roll moment! Get out of the house, call the fire department, jump into the snow, and then roll around to put the flames out! I will refrain from making claims about Advanced Laboratories. However, I will say there are a lot of labs in Utah that give faulty results to supplements companies to show "proof" things contain what they claim, but in all reality is all BS. I will see if I can get some CherryPURE from another source, as I can only comment on Life Extensions's, as that is the sample we bought. I know they claim it is CherryPURE, but how would anyone know if it wasn't? I could claim ours has 50% anthocyanins. Anyone can claim anything they want. The proof is in the pudding, so to speak.