Comment · Sat, September 10, 2022 · ND Owner
Magtein - Patent Protected - Magnesium L-Threonate All The Same
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AllKnowingOfNothing1 · 22 points
Interested to see if this post gets flamed, deleted, or accepted as the help I'm trying to share. This is only for Magnesium L-Threonate not any other type.
This has been the most beneficial supplement I've used over the last two years. We all know how we want the best supplement for the best price. Sometimes we have to make choices on where our money goes. MagMind/Magtein is an option I would never take a lesser product. With that said.
Magtein is a patent protected element of Magnesium L-Threonate. Any company using it is using a specific formula. Feel free to google Magtein, MagMind, Magnesium L-Threonate "patent"
This means any magnesium threonate product is the same as another. Nootropics Depot $40 bottle is the same as the Jarrows MagMind $24 bottle, as is Life Extension Neuro Mag for $29. I've used all 3 brands listed. I can say they all work and feel exactly the same. I've never had anything else work just as well as Nootropics Depot products besides this specific supplement. (Well maybe Agmatine Sulfate but I still get ND for it)
Do the math and 40% off a bottle of MagMind/Magtein/Neuro Mag means you can add in a more beneficial bottle of Nootropics Depot.
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fablemerchant · 2 points
It's too bad y'all can't produce a documentary on corruption in the supplement industry. If you did, politicians would probably draft laws that would screw the consumer even more.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
I actually wanted to get with VICE to do just that. Issue is that right now there is a concerted attack on the supplement industry, and I fear piling more negative things on right now might hurt rather than help. So we are going to be focusing more on the positive side of what we are trying to do to change things, rather than the negative side of the bad actors. Just look what happened with the recent death of the wife of a US Representative, and the convenient timing of the release of bad data to get a California law bill passed restricting supplements.
She died December 2021. However, they waited till now to release all these reports that it was caused by supplements? The cutoff to pass that bill was August 31st. They passed it 7 days before the cutoff, which was conveniently 1 day after the KHN news story broke about the US Representative's wife dying from supplements. Tons of news sites jumped on it, and spread the message that she died from consuming a white mulberry leaf supplement. The issue is that there is no documented case of anyone dying from white mulberry leaf in human history, nor is there any mechanism that would explain it. The coroner said she died from acute dehydration caused by white mulberry leaf. Like WTF?!? The even crazier thing is that they said they found intact white mulberry leaves in her gastrointestinal tract, and then identified them VISUALLY to confirm it. No HP-TLC. No DNA barcoding. No real analytical methods of any kind. They just visually said: "Yep, that's white mulberry leaf!" Then the coroner said: "Well that settles it! She died from acute dehydration from white mulberry leaf ingestion!" How fucking stupid do they think we are?!? They find an intact leaf in her GI tract, and it is in good enough condition to visually ID? Who the fuck shoves whole mulberry leaves down their throat? Also, if it was an intact leaf, it certainly was NOT a fucking dietary supplement. White mulberry leaves are very hard to visually ID, too.
These are all white mulberry leaves.
You're telling me some US Representative's wife was eating whole white mulberry leaves, not chewing them, then she died from "acute dehydration" from the leaves, despite no scientific explanation for how, and no documented other case in human history... Then this coroner confirms this was the cause of death almost a year ago. Then a week before an anti-supplement bill vote is going to expire, the Kaiser Family Foundation, which is ran by the former head of the US Department of Health and Human Services (which is what the FDA is under), and a former sponsor of the Dietary Supplement Control Act, suddenly breaks a story about this death, which causes enough bad press that it finally gets the bill passed. So this nonprofit foundation ran by former government officials obtains a coroner's report for the death of the wife of a US Representative, then strategically releases a biased article alluding to it possibly being from a weight loss supplement made from white mulberry leaves just before an anti-weightloss supplement bill passes in California? They even say this:
It’s unclear from the autopsy report whether Lori McClintock took a dietary supplement containing white mulberry leaf, ate fresh or dried leaves, or drank them in a tea, but a “partially intact” white mulberry leaf was found in her stomach, according to the report.
Uhh, you lying sacks of shit! The botanist that ID'd the leaf, Alison Colwell, even said that it was likely ingested as a fresh leaf, and noted it was not toxic at all.
The leaf taken from McClintock’s stomach, Colwell wrote, “was likely ingested when fresh.
White mulberry is not toxic," Colwell wrote in the botanist report to the Sacramento County Coroner's Office.
So we know it was not a supplement! It was a fucking intact leaf in her GI tract! Yet all the articles released on it are trying to make people think she died from taking a weight loss supplement... This is a coordinated hit piece to make supplements seem unsafe to try and shove anti-supplement bills through. The AHPA even came out and said this was a shady ploy.
So they are playing dirty to try and pass more regulations. I think leaning too hard in the bad side of the industry might be a poor choice at the moment.