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Comment · Fri, August 5, 2022 · ND Owner

Any plans for a ND passion flower extract?

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eatyourbroc · 11 points

Curious if there is anything like this in the works. I got one recently from a brand on Amazon and the effects are pretty strong. Are there any notable downsides? I did notice I felt a little bit odd the morning/day after taking it the previous evening.

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u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

Yes, we have been working on that for a long time. We have been finding the available stuff on the market sucks. I think there is a lot of spiking going on. The passionflower extracts that are standardized to total flavones are coming up very low, with a single spike for one flavone like rutin. I think the Chinese suppliers are just adding in rutin to basic passionflowers to spike them up for total flavones. Then you have other things in them like haramala alkaloids, which are actually more stimulating than calming. We are working with some passionflower extracts from Brazil right now that we think are high in harmala alkaloids. They are ones you don't want to take before bed. There is a lot to unpack with passionflower, so we are taking our time. We do have a Natrium stack coming out soon with passionflower in it, though.

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